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| 2004/3/16-17 [Politics/Domestic/President/Bush, Politics/Domestic/Election] UID:12712 Activity:high |
3/16 New York Times/CBS poll: 11% think Kerry is a conservative, 12% think
Bush is a liberal.
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2004/03/15/opinion/polls/main606465.shtml
\_ which really means between 12 and 23 percent of those polled are
ignorant morons.
\_ Yup. Which is probably the biggest problem. The leader is elected
based on television personality, and soundbite carpetbombing.
A truly wise leader would probably bore people, and probably
would avoid the job and the associated bullshit in the first
place.
\_ A truly wise leader isn't a technocrat or paper pusher. It
takes leadership to lead. Carter != leader. Reagan = leader.
GHB != leader. BC = leader. GWB = leader. Kerry != leader.
If personality weren't important we could get a computer to
do it.
\_ ob: Hitler was a leader too. Having a TV personality isn't
a requirement to be an effective leader. It's only a
requirement in the USA to manipulate public opinion. China
for example doesn't need a dancing figurehead to make
forceful national decisions. More to the point, leadership
doesn't go hand in hand with wisdom.
\_ Not a good troll. You just combine catch/key words and
bad formatting. A lazy troll.
\_ I'll feed you the cookie: China is a heavy iron fisted
dictatorship that rules by fear and force. They don't
rule at the whim of their populace. That's a good
model that would allow us to have wise but zero
charisma leaders. How about GWB declare martial law,
disband the government and do what he thinks is best
instead of poll following and wasting his time trying
to answer all those annoying reporter questions? Let's
try it for a few years and see if our country ends up
doing as well as a nice place like China.
\_ what gives you the impression that Bush answers
annoying questions from reporters? His press
conferences are 100% scripted.
\_ duh, all press conferences are. what is new about
that? you're right, press conferences are
controlled so let's use the Chinese system.
\_ I'm just wondering what you're saying. When
does Bush answer "annoying reporter questions",
if his press conferences are controlled?
\_ are u surprised? lots of the lib. vs con. stuff is nonsense.
Here is something neither of them would like to admit: GWB is a lot
like BC as a president, minus the libido. The unilateralist
interventionist PAX Amerika approach was started by BC, not GWB.
BC = GWB + sex drive.
\_ UR so KOOL saiing AMERIKA w/a K!!! hahahahahaha!!!!11
\_ and that's why I may not be voting for bush this fall. unlike
my liberal counterparts i don't froth and hate blindly just
because there's a (d) near a name nor do I fall in sycophantic
enthrallment to anyone with an (r). both BC and GWB are bad for
the country, just in different ways. the problem for me is that
kerry is like BC but stupid and ineffective and elitist. well
actually i guess that makes kerry nothing like BC. -conservative
\_ The corruption in BC's administration was unparalled in the 20th
century. The DNC has returned millions in campaign contribution
from the Communist PLA. How many contributions were never
caught? China has all of our nuclear weapon designs and
literally thousands of front companies performing industrial
espionage. What was Billy Bob's N. Korea policy - send his coke
head brother there on a tour.Between militarizing the IRS,
Forest Service, and other agencies, ignoring five or six
terrorist attacks, Waco, Elian, demoralization of the military,
etc. etc. BC was the second worst president with a tie for 1st
between FDR and Wilson. I remember posting links here in 2000
describing the 'diversity quilts' and PC other policies
Clinton's administration was pushing in the CIA. We know now
the results of these 'policies'. William Casey met with BC once
in the two years he was head of CIA. On the domestic agenda,
yes GWB is similar to BC. [motd formatd was here] [then the real
motd formatd fixed it for real]
\_ Whoah. I got sprayed with spittle just reading this onscreen.
\_ Why bother posting if you have nothing to say?
\_ The fact that you think FDR was the worst president ever says
a lot about your mindset.
\_ Yes and pointing that out says nothing about the poster,
or your differing opinions. Your implied assumption that
FDR = good and anti-FDR = insane says you really haven't
read your history or studied the long term social costs of
FDR's programs or actually the abuse of their growth and
continued existence long past their useful life span.
\_ Anyone who can't find some good in him has a problem.
You don't have to love him, but there must be something
you liked.
\_ There is 'some' good in everyone, mostly. That
doesn't make them a good president or mean they had
good policies, or more specifically in this case mean
that their policies were good beyond the time period
they were written and should have been kept and
expanded into the horror they've become today.
\_ So you're blaming FDR because later presidents
didn't end his programs when they outlived their
usefulness? How many federal programs come with
a sunset provision? |
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| www.cbsnews.com/stories/2004/03/15/opinion/polls/main606465.shtml CBS Eight months from Election Day, it is already a nip-and-tuck Presidential race. Bush currently leads John Kerry by three points among voters, while two weeks ago Kerry was up by one. Seven in ten of each candidates voters say they have already locked in their choices, and most voters already have clear opinions of the two presidential candidates qualities and their potential strengths and weaknesses in office. BUSH: CHOICE IN NOVEMBER Registered voters John Kerry Now 43 Two weeks ago 47 George Bush Now 46 Two weeks ago 46 Much of the electorate has already made its decision. Registered voters backing a candidate Yes Total 71 Kerry voters 70 Bush voters 76 No Total 29 Kerry voters 30 Bush voters 23 VIEWS OF THE CANDIDATES American voters are about evenly split in their views of President Bush, with slightly more viewing him favorably than unfavorably. Senator John Kerry, though now heading up the ticket for the Democrats, remains unknown to many voters. Like Bush, he receives mixed reviews from those who are familiar with him. Many voters now offer views on both candidates, though fewer offer opinions of Kerry than Bush. Majorities of voters describe both Bush and Kerry as strong leaders, and both are seen as having a vision for the country. Both also are viewed as sharing the moral values most Americans try to live by, but Bush has an advantage over Kerry in this area, and Kerry is more unknown in this regard. Kerry has an edge over Bush in being seen as caring about voters needs and problems, though majorities have positive views of both. More than half - 52 percent - of voters say Bush does not share their priorities for the country, while 45 percent say he does share them. One in ten voters thinks Kerry is a conservative, and 20 percent are unable to identify Kerry with an ideology. CANDIDATE IDEOLOGY Registered Voters Bush Liberal 12 Moderate 26 Conservative 53 Dont know 9 Kerry Liberal 39 Moderate 30 Conservative 11 Dont know 20 THE CANDIDATES AND THE ISSUES Key issue areas in this presidential campaign continue to be terrorism along with the war in Iraq and the economy and jobs. Voters are more confident in Bush than Kerry when comes to handling an international crisis, but they express more confidence in Kerry when it comes to the economy. ABILITY TO DEAL WITH ECONOMIC DECISIONS Registered Voters Bush Confident 39 Uneasy 57 Kerry Confident 43 Uneasy 42 Other questions show this split between evaluations on foreign policy and evaluations about the economy. A large majority of voters express confidence that Bush will protect the country from a terrorist attack if he is re-elected in November, but many voters do not think a second Bush term will create more jobs or make sure Social Security benefits remain available. Half of voters think Bush is not likely to increase the number of jobs if he is re-elected. If Kerry wins in November, 42 percent think the economy will say the same, but 36 percent say it will get better. Only 11 percent say the economy will get worse under a Kerry administration - half the number that says this about a second Bush term. However the President continues to receive far lower marks for handling the economy and foreign policy, and just under half approve his handling of Iraq, also up slightly from 46 percent two weeks ago. BUSH JOB APPROVAL Overall Now 51 Two weeks ago 47 Terrorism Now 64 Two weeks ago 65 Economy Now 38 Two weeks ago 37 Foreign Policy Now 45 Two weeks ago 44 Iraq Now 49 Two weeks ago 46 53 percent of Americans believe Bush is in charge of what goes on in his Administration, and 38 percent say other people are. |