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3/16 This is a perfect example of what I was saying the other day about
why I don't want my President to be tremendously popular in foreign
nations. This doesn't in any way endear me to Kerry or anyone else
who gets this sort of high praise from foreigners. Remember, everyone
has puts their own interests first, yours second, if at all.
http://daily.nysun.com/Repository/getFiles.asp?Style=OliveXLib:ArticleToMail&Type=text/html&Path=NYS/2004/03/15&ID=Ar00104
\_ shrug, Bush is a moron anyway. Can't blame them for liking
the less idiotic candidate.
\_ Call me when Kerry has an opinion on something.
\_ Kerry is nothing special. He's done nothing of note in the
Senate. He's an elitist pig and his campaign was only able to
just pull up even with Bush after 8 months of free Bush bashing
during the (D)em primaries. You think his ratings will
suddenly improve now that Bush is fighting back? You think
to know him is to love him and his ratings will somehow go up
as time goes on? This election is a referendum on Bush. He
could be running against any loser/winner and it wouldn't
matter. Kerry's running mate won't matter. Debates won't
matter. In November we'll all find out for real if voters want
or do not want Bush and his policies. The desires of foreign
leaders, their people, the UN, and non-voters are unimportant.
\_ And when the bill for Iraq pops up again, I'm sure those
foreigners will pop in a few hundred million to help cover
the tens of billion dollars the US is spending there. Who
cares what they think?
\_ A few hundred million is *nothing* compared to the 160
*billion* we'll have put into Iraq and Afghanistan by
this summer. The price of their 'friendship' is too high.
Do the math.
\_ foreginers pretty much foot the bill for the entire
gulf war one. this iraq war two is illegal and immoral.
US is a very bad friend in asking its allies to support
its illegal and immoral war. it's right to refuse
instead of succumbing to us pressures and bribes.
\_ Yes, because having the world despise Bush has helped the US so much.
\_ If they loved him it wouldn't matter. Foreign intelligence
services (including France, Germany and Russia) are still
working very closely with ours. The French have 200 elite
special forces guys working closely with ours on the Afghanistan
Pakistan border looking for bin Laden conducting active missions
and the leaders of other Muslim countries that should hate us
according to your theories such as Saudi Arabia are working with
us and actively tracking down and killing terrorists where ever
they find them. How exactly would good Bush PR around the
glone help?
\_ So the whole Iraq thing doesn't count anymore?
\_ What are you talking about? What do you mean by "doesn't
count"? Huh? I honestly don't understand what you're
getting at. |
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| daily.nysun.com/Repository/getFiles.asp?Style=OliveXLib:ArticleToMail&Type=text/html&Path=NYS/2004/03/15&ID=Ar00104 French Going Wild For Senator Kerry In Election Fever A CERTAIN ELEGANCE IS SEEN By MICHAEL MANVILLE Special to the Sun PARIS It could be the flawless French he learned while at boarding school in Switzerland. Or that he summered in his youth at a picturesque village on the rocky shores of Brittany. Or his pledge to take Americas allies more seriously and pursue an inclusive foreign policy. His face graces the covers of magazines and newspapers on Paris newsstands. Journalists chase down distant relatives and long-forgotten acquaintances in search of anecdotes. If Novembers presidential election were being held here, theres no doubt that Mr. Kerry, the Massachusetts senator and Democratic candidate, would win by a landslide. My phone is ringing from morning to night because everybody wants to know about Kerry, said the head of the France chapter of Democrats Abroad, Constance Borde. Asked in what way, he laughed and replied: Well, he doesnt look Texan. Instead, he looks like the kind of American the French have always appreciated urbane, well traveled, and sophisticated. Kerrys connection with France dates back to his youth, when he spent summers with a flock of cousins in St-Briac-sur-Mer, a summer resort town where his maternal grandfather had built an estate. James Grant Forbes, an international lawyer and banker,settled there with his wife, Margaret Winthrop, in 1908. Their rambling cliffside property, called Les Essarts, was destroyed when Nazi troops occupied St-Briac, but Mr. Kerrys grandfather rebuilt the estate and it became a regular summer haunt of far-flung relatives. Ordinary Americans are beginning to understand what damage has been done to our international reputation and theyre getting worried about it. Some observers here wonder if the French are not in for a disappointment if Mr. Kerry supported the war in Iraq and that he isnt likely to drastically change American foreign policy. His attitude is very different, so the atmosphere will probably be better, he said. In an opinion piece published last week in Le Figaro, Bruno Tertrais, an analyst with Frances Foundation for Strategic Research, warned that the French are dreaming if they expect Mr. Kerry will mean an end to neo-conservatives and fundamentalists, to military super-strength and attempts to reshape the world,Mr. He wrote that American political culture was so changed by the September 11 attacks that the Democrats would be no less likely than the Republicans to exercise American military power. Bush or Kerry, the next occupant of the White House will still be a war president, he wrote. |