4/3     How come *man* suddenly doesn't work anymore?  What has changed?
        Has the env path been changed?
        \_ Correct problem reporting protocol:  Say what you tried doing.
           Say what didn't happen.  Say who you are so we can see what
           your environment is.  Oh, and mail root.  --scotsman
        \_ Look to thine own self.
           \_ it used to work.  I haven't done any env changes.
              \_ i love how you're totally unspecific about what the
                 problem is. care to give any details whatsoever?
              \_ For this i must respond: "works fine for me!"
        \_ echo $MANPATH.  You should get "Undefined variable".  If it
           is defined, type in unsetenv MANPATH (csh/tcsh).  MANPATH
           should not be defined on soda.
           \_ What's the reasoning behind this?  MANPATH should _not_ be
              defined?  I have MANPATH set; the system's defaults + the
              man pages I installed under my own directories.  And
              my `man` works just fine.
              \_ until the system defaults change.  Almost all "man" problems
                 are due to outdated MANPATH variables.  -tom
                 \_ I understand this.  But not having it set means "man"
                    would be unable to find user-installed man pages.  So
                    I would think the solution should be keeping one's
                    MANPATH up-to-date with system's defaults, no?  -not
                    UNIX admin
                    \_ You have to set MANPATH if you want user-installed
                       man pages, but almost everyone who breaks man by
                       setting MANPATH isn't really using a MANPATH (likely
                       including the original poster).  If you're using it,
                       keep it up to date and don't ask stupid questions on
                       the MOTD.  -tom
                        \_ haha...I agree it was my fault for setting the
                           MANPATH and forgot about it.  But the very reason
                           I set the MANPATH variable then was because *man*
                           didn't work then, so setting it helped.  Now I
                           totally forgot about such a variable, and have
                           no clue how come it suddenly doesn't work again.
                           not until someone mentioned not to set the variable
                           I would still have no clue why it didn't work. -op
                           \_ "\_ it used to work.  I haven't done any env
                              changes."
                              Music to tech support's collective ear.
        \_ This is a common problem among senior citizens.  The solution is
        \_ This is a common problem amoung senior citizens.  The solution is
           a prescription of Viagra.
           \_ haha, gosh, you guys are horrible.  Only one guy offered a good
              solution--the echo $MANPATH
              \_ Haven't worked tech support before, huh?  Someone who waves
                 their arms and says "THIS ISN'T WORKING!  FIX IT!" is going
                 to accomplish nothing but annoy those who might be able to
                 help. --scotsman
              \_ bad questions usually get bad answers. go figure.
                \_ obviously it wasn't a bad questions.  Someone who has
                   a real clue was able to give the answer. I thought
                   the question was really clear.  It asked why didn't
                   it work when it used to be without any change in user's
                   environment.  If you know what is going on.  It would
                   suggest you look into the MANPATH env variable.
                   \_ That someone guessed at your problem and hit doesn't
                      obviate your question's shortcomings.  If they hadn't
                      actally addressed your problem, you would have gone away
                      thinking "huh, what idiots..." when you really need to
                      look inward. --scotsman
                      \_ why do you insist your less problem solving ability
                        is the questions fault? =)  Question asked "what have
                        changed? has the env path been changed?" If you know
                        what's going on, would that tip you that yeah, maybe
                        it didn't work because the MANPATH was wrong!???
                        One thing I can agree with you is that, Idiots think
                        others are idiots.
                        \_ I can't make you take good advice.  If you like
                           making things harder, I guess that's your
                           prerogative. --scotsman
                        \_ I agree with this person in spite of his poor
                           English. tom and scotsman are just being pompous
                           assholes.
                           \_ Seriously, grow up a little, then come back to
                              the conversation. --scotsman
              \_ gigo
        \_ Nothing has changed. The man pages are in /usr/local/man,
              solution--the echo $MANPATH
           /usr/X11/man and /csua/man as always. You are just an idiot.