3/2 Early reports say Kerry is making a clean sweep today. Oh well,
4 more years for GWB.
\_ Edwards to drop out tomorrow.
\_ you mean become Vice Presidential Candidate
\_ no way that vain Boston prig would pick someone who'd
upstage him, even if Kerry/Edwards is in the party's
best interest
\_ don't understand what do you mean. you mean Edward with his
anti-trade, protectionist platform has better shot at winning
votes from the undecided?
\_ ^undecided^undecided and Southerners^
\_ why Kerry won Ohio? you would imagine a state lost 250k jobs
would find Edwards more appealing.
\_ Yes. More than Kerry. Where have you been? A lot of people
in this country lost jobs to NAFTA, overseas outsourcing, often
paid for with their own tax dollars and they're pissed off.
\_ why Kerry won Ohio? you would imagine a state lost 250k jobs
would find Edwards more appealing.
\_ It's the "Most Electible" vote.
\_ duh, it isn't a general election. they had to vote for
even though they create jobs OVERSEAS. May be tha corporate
someone. and tell me this: how many stayed home?
\_ just part of globalization, my friend, bite the damn
bullet. USA as a whole has benefited from this trend,
it would be foolish to roll back. My problem with the
current system is that we offer tax break to companies
even though they create jobs OVERSEAS. May be the corporate
tax code should be rewritten so it only rewards companies
that offer jobs within USA border. This wouldn't stop
moving jobs to overseas, but it will stop unnecessary
job migration.
\_ I don't disagree with you. I'm just telling you what you
already know: there are a bunch of pissed off people out
there who are going to vote against pro-global candidates
if at all possible.
\- why should companies be given tax breaks for job creation
again? isnt that just a subsidy to the owners? how about
giving tax breaks to people who buy "american cars" or
"american shoes".
\_ what is considered "American " is no longer clear.
\- that is why i quoted "american". i think it
was actually a good thing that the developing
countries said "fuck you" in cancun. can you
imagine india trying to protect "chai" like
the french protect champagne? or the mercan-
tilism of the RIAA and MSFT? --psb ...
\_ In cancun, it's less to do with intellectual
properties right, more to do with government
subsidies on agrecultural product, and
Brazil and India and rest of developing
nation wants to got rid of it. Besides,
this entire IP fiascal started by USA,
and the rest of the country is just trying
to do the same thing.
again? isnt that just a subsidy to the owners? how about
giving tax breaks to people who buy "american cars" or
"american shoes".
But when the chosen people grew more strong,
The rightful cause at length became the wrong:
The moderate sort of men, thus qualifi'd,
Inclin'd the balance to the better side:
--john dryden
Toyota Camery is made in USA, is that considered
an "American" car? When American product flooding
other nations, USA was being a such arrogant asshole
saying that this is part of globalization and eventually
offer consumer better/cheaper product is best interest
for everyone in the long run. It's kind of funny that
other nations start to beat USA with USA's own game and
USA start to bitching about it. I never said the trade
rules are fair, but it is HEAVILY favors American
corperations that most other nation is actually compete
at much of a handicaps. The irony is that American
citizens (aside from wealthy share owners of these
corporation) start to loose out, as they too become
victims of corporate expoitation.
\_ There's no longer any such thing as a USA corporation
among the large companies. They're all
multi-nationals which means they're going to screw
anyone and everyone they can if it makes them a
penny. When some dumb cunt like 'Carly' at HP says
and does some of the evil stupid shit she has, you
can be certain that "USA" is the last thing on her
mind.
\_ And just how is Bush and his "outsourcing is good" policy
going to appeal to the people who have lost jobs? You're
\_ 1) It's not, 2) Bush never said that. Some paper pusher
knee biters 9 layers deep in the beauracracy said it and
were repudiated the next news cycle by the admin.
\_ Actually, it was the head of Bush's Council of
Economic Advisers, Gregory Mankiw. And the Bush
"repudiation" was a lukewarm "the president is
strongly committed to creating jobs here at home"
from mouthpiece McClellan. Not inspiring stuff. |
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