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2/26 Kerry's Soviet Rhetoric
The Vietnam-era antiwar movement got its spin from the Kremlin.
by KGB Defector
http://www.nationalreview.com/comment/pacepa200402260828.asp
\_ a response: http://www.calpundit.com/archives/003364.html
\_ And I'm sure Venona was part of the vast right-wing
conspiracy as well eh?
Funneling of Soviet money, particularly oil revenues,
to Western insurgency groups is all very well
documented. Notice the author of your link does not
question the veracity of the NRO text - he simply
demagogues. Is it really necessary to recite for
you Soviet sponsored insurgencies during the Cold
War?
\_ Bush knew. http://www.buzzflash.com/perspectives/911bush.html
\_ It's on Free Republic. Go post there if you care. |
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| www.nationalreview.com/comment/pacepa200402260828.asp Kerrys Soviet Rhetoric The Vietnam-era antiwar movement got its spin from the Kremlin. By Ion Mihai Pacepa P art of Senator John Kerrys appeal to a certain segment of Americans is his Vietnam-veteran status coupled with his antiwar activism during that period. Kerry also ought to be asked who, exactly, told him any such thing, and what it was, exactly, that they said they did in Vietnam. Statutes of limitation now protect these individuals from prosecution for any such admissions. Or did Senator Kerry merely hear allegations of that sort as hearsay bandied about by members of antiwar groups much of which has since been discredited ? To me, this assertion sounds exactly like the disinformation line that the Soviets were sowing worldwide throughout the Vietnam era. KGB priority number one at that time was to damage American power, judgment, and credibility. One of its favorite tools was the fabrication of such evidence as photographs and news reports about invented American war atrocities. These tales were purveyed in KGB-operated magazines that would then flack them to reputable news organizations. News organizations are notoriously sloppy about verifying their sources. All in all, it was amazingly easy for Soviet-bloc spy organizations to fake many such reports and spread them around the free world. As a spy chief and a general in the former Soviet satellite of Romania, I produced the very same vitriol Kerry repeated to the United States Congress almost word for word and planted it in leftist movements throughout Europe. KGB chairman Yuri Andropov managed our anti-Vietnam War operation. He often bragged about having damaged the United States foreign-policy consensus, poisoned domestic debate in the United States, and built a credibility gap between America and European public opinion through our disinformation operations. The KGB organized a vitriolic conference in Stockholm to condemn Americas aggression, on March 8, 1965, as the first American troops arrived in south Vietnam. It was staffed by Soviet-bloc undercover intelligence officers and received about $15 million annually from the Communist Partys international department on top of the WPCs $50 million a year, all delivered in laundered cash dollars. Both groups had Soviet-style secretariats to manage their general activities, Soviet-style working committees to conduct their day-to-day operations, and Soviet-style bureaucratic paperwork. The quote from Senator Kerry is unmistakable Soviet-style sloganeering from this period. I believe it is very like a direct quote from one of these organizations propaganda sheets. The KGB campaign to assault the United States and Europe by means of disinformation was more than just a few Cold War dirty tricks. The whole foreign policy of the Soviet-bloc states, indeed its whole economic and military might, revolved around the larger Soviet objective of destroying America from within through the use of lies. The Soviets saw disinformation as a vital tool in the dialectical advance of world Communism. The Stockholm conference held annual international meetings up to 1972. In its five years of existence it created thousands of documentary materials printed in all the major Western languages describing the abominable crimes committed by American soldiers against civilians in Vietnam, along with counterfeited pictures. All these materials were manufactured by the KGBs disinformation department. I would print up these materials in hundreds of thousands of copies each. The Romanian DIE Ceausescus secret police was tasked to distribute these KGB-concocted incriminating documents all over Western Europe. Even Attila the Hun looks like an angel when compared to these Americans, a West German businessman reprovingly told me after reading one such report. The Italian, Greek, and Spanish Communist parties serviced by Bucharest were much affected by this material and their activists regularly distributed translations. They also handed them out to the participants at anti-American demonstrations around the world. Many Ban-the-Bomb and anti-nuclear movements were KGB-funded operations, too. I can no longer look at a petition for world peace or other supposedly noble cause, particularly of the anti-American variety, without thinking to myself, KGB. In 1978, when I broke with Communism, my DIE was propagating the line that Washingtons adventure in Vietnam had wasted over $200 trillion. This waste, we warned darkly, would soon generate European inflation, recession, and unemployment. As far as Im concerned, the KGB gave birth to the antiwar movement in America. In 1976, Andropov gave my own Romanian DIE credit for helping his KGB do so. Leftist intellectuals in America now look to Europe steeped for years in anti-American propaganda from the Soviet Union for a sane and frank European criticism of the Bush administrations war policy. Indeed, anti-Americanism in Europe today is almost as ferocious as it was during Vietnam. France and Germany insist we are torturing the al Qaeda prisoners held at Guantanamo Base. The Mirror , a British newspaper, is confident that President Bush and Prime Minister Tony Blair were killing innocents in Afghanistan. The Paris daily Le Monde put Jean Baudrillard on its front page asserting that the Judeo-Christian West, led by America, not only provoked the September 11 terrorist attacks, it actually desired them. In June 2002, a documentary film on US war crimes in Afghanistan was shown in the German Bundestag by the crypto-Communist Party of Democratic Socialism PDS. The film faithfully reincarnated the style of old Soviet-bloc documentaries demonizing the United States war in Vietnam. According to this 20-minute movie, American soldiers were involved in the torture and murder of some 3,000 Taliban prisoners in the region of Mazar-e-Sharif. One witness in the film even claimed he had seen an American soldier break the neck of one Afghan prisoner and pour acid on others. During my last meeting with Andropov, he said, wisely, now all we have to do is to keep the Vietnam-era anti-Americanism alive. He understood that in the end our original involvement would be forgotten, and our insinuations would take on a life of their own. Ion Mihai Pacepa was acting chief of Romanias espionage service and national-security adviser to the countrys president. He is the highest-ranking intelligence officer ever to have defected from the former Soviet bloc. |
| www.calpundit.com/archives/003364.html Back in the 50s and 60s a favorite trope of conservatives was the charge that some poor sad sack was an unwitting commie dupe. The charge was usually laid out in the most melodramatic way possible and conveniently required no proof, merely a vague nexus of associations demonstrating that the dupes actions were surely approved of by the gray suited men in the Kremlin who were plotting world domination. Evidence to support the charges was inevitably labyrinthine, sinister, and based on the testimony of ex-commies who explained to a credulous audience how the movement really worked, most likely in their own neighborhood! Besides being easier and more fun, it was in many ways actually more effective than accusing someone of genuine communist activity. Aside from being impossible to defend against, it also suggested that the chosen liberal was not just a traitor to American values, but also impossibly weak, stupid, and naive. And I have to tell you, his renditions of Soviet disinformation tactics, counterfeit documents, gullible reporters lapping up the party line, and grandiose pronouncements of his own importance As far as Im concerned, the KGB gave birth to the antiwar movement in America really bring back memories. Its like reliving air raid drills, fallout shelters, COINTELPRO, and the Army-McCarthy hearings. Posted by Kevin Drum at February 26, 2004 05:20 PM TrackBack Comments Whoo hoo! Posted by: craigie at February 26, 2004 05:25 PM PERMALINK I am sure Pacepa is rolling all over the floor patting himself on the back. I find it exhilirating that so few people can have so much power over so many. After all, the pro-Iraq war movement was started by our neocon intel ops, and many were duped. It doesnt say much for the intellectual honesty of the NRO, since they gleefully point out commie dupes but dont point back at themselves as rightie dupes. Posted by: Carol at February 26, 2004 05:26 PM PERMALINK It died out in the 70s, eh? What was all that back in 1992 about how Clinton was secretly a Soviet agent because he visited Russia as a student? Posted by: KCinDC at February 26, 2004 05:29 PM PERMALINK David Niewert should be talking about this, not me, but here it goes: Its profoundly un-American to level such accusations. Of course, NR has every right to do so, but Im talking about the substance. These people NR editors, that is dont understand in the least what America stands for, and what America means. If anything, it means the right and duty to go to your government and say, How can you ask a man to be the last man to die for a mistake? It also means the right, at the same time of strife, so sit on your ass in Texas and snort blow, although theres no sense of duty in that, unlike in what Kerry did. Posted by: Old Hat at February 26, 2004 05:35 PM PERMALINK Since he voted for the Iraq war resultion, is he now a Neo-commie dupe? Posted by: Chris Leithiser at February 26, 2004 05:38 PM PERMALINK Hmmm, National Review is printing the musings of a former Soviet intelligence agent. And we all know that Putin has Bush wrapped around his little finger since Bush saw the goodness of the former spymasters soul. So if you were to ask me, it seems obvious that Putin doesnt want to lose that leverage. So he sends out some info through channels to discredit Kerry and lo and behold we see the National Review being dupes of MOTHER RUSSIA! Posted by: Rob at February 26, 2004 05:39 PM PERMALINK This is one of the problems the Democrats have, they are to principaled to do it and a lot of US citizens are duped enough to fall for it. That is well known - there was a meeting of vets who spoke about their personal experiences with various atriocities. NRO knows this, but instead it prints trash about how it was really KGB disinformation plants. Why dont they just run stories about how Bush gets all his smarty ideas by watching Star Trek and talking with space aliens. Then NRO can be displayed at grocery check-out stands, and increase their circulation. Posted by: dmbeaster at February 26, 2004 05:40 PM PERMALINK Next week, an exclusive NRO interview with a Secret Government Scientist who has decoded radio signals from Outer Space which PROVE that Democratic voters are actually under alien mind control! That Kerry is being backed by the same Vast Jewish Conspiracy recounted in the Protocols of the Elders of Zion? At this rate, Kerrys biggest problem will be washing the seats of all the chairs in the White House after he wins. Posted by: sagesource at February 26, 2004 05:47 PM PERMALINK bleh I dont think the National Enquirer would touch that one. Posted by: Ron In Portland at February 26, 2004 05:50 PM PERMALINK Interesting that Kevin carefully avoided addressing the substance of the article and simply resorted to tired old leftist tropes and smears in an attempt to peremptorialy discredit it. Posted by: me at February 26, 2004 05:51 PM PERMALINK The NR used to be a pretty decent magazine for the conservative view. You could disagree with them till doomsday, but still see that there was thought and intelligence behind their views. Most conservative voices these days are, or at least support those views. There are left wingnuts, but theyre not given much serious consideration by anyone, except the right, who try to make emblems out of them. And while the left can be as wrong, misled, misguided as the right, they dont engage in the flat out lies and rewriting of history as the right. Posted by: Robert E at February 26, 2004 05:57 PM PERMALINK The whole anti-war movement was the KGBs idea? On our own, we could not see that being involved in some far-off countrys civil war that was costing us thousands of lives was a bad idea and worth protesting against? Then what could a group of spies say or do to make us realize this? Posted by: peejay at February 26, 2004 05:58 PM PERMALINK So, whats it called when a Communist spymaster sows disinformation about disinformation? Like, how does the NRO tell the difference between the real fake letters from Republicans and the fake fake letters from Democrats? Posted by: Marshall at February 26, 2004 06:01 PM PERMALINK Jesus fin Christ. If Kevin ever mentions AWOL-gate again, Al will call him and everyone on the left for good measure a tinfoil-hat conspiracy lunatic. Posted by: scarshapedstar at February 26, 2004 06:02 PM PERMALINK Interesting article. For purposes of argument, lets hypothetically assume that every charge and ambuguity is resolved in favor of the writer. Does that make opposition to the vietnam war somehow stupid or immoral? Posted by: PaulB at February 26, 2004 06:21 PM PERMALINK John Kerry is a pinko fag, thats why he cant touch my joy stick. Only real red blooded Americans like W can enjoy the pleasures of my man-member. Posted by: john kerry cant touch my penis at February 26, 2004 06:21 PM PERMALINK Keiser here does a fantastic job of showing us what todays dupes are really all about: they are people duped by the right-wing slime machine. I really should know better than to waste my time commenting on his trash, but the fact that hes already playing the Benedict Arnold contributors story shows how ill-informed, hate-filled, and mouth-foaming keiser actually is: that is to say, the perfect Gillespie dupe. Meanwhile, what i really wanted to say was that Kevin, youve got it all wrong: the gray suits in the 50s and 60s were worn by American businessmen. Posted by: obscure at February 26, 2004 07:09 PM PERMALINK Keiser, Just because someone is rich is no reason to hate them. Maybe shes buying their stock so shell have more clout in their shareholder meetings, eh? Posted by: Monkey at February 26, 2004 07:27 PM PERMALINK The Toledo Blade newspaper recently did some real reporting on some locals who confessed to committing horrible atrocities while soldiers in Nam. Many letters to the editor reminded us that plenty of people have never faced up to what happened there, which I suppose is why the writer can claim it was all anti-US propaganda. Its only been a couple years since the release of the report of the Guatemalan Truth Commission, and how many people realize what the US did there in 1981-83? Posted by:... |
| www.buzzflash.com/perspectives/911bush.html The unanswered questions of 9/11 September 3, 2003 CBS reporter David Martin revealed that weeks before the attacks, the CIA had warned Bush personally of Osama Bin Ladens intent to use hijacked planes as missiles. That followed the damaging exposure by The Associated Presss John Solomon of a pre-9/11 FBI memo from an officer in Phoenix warning of suspicious Middle Eastern men training at flight schoolsa warning that went unheeded. LINK US Clamps Secrecy on Warnings Before 9/11 August 7, 2003 The committee managed, inadvertently, it says, to get some contents of a key briefing Bush received in August 2001. It included FBI judgments about patterns of activity consistent with preparations for hijackings or other types of attacks; Bush, James Baker, and the Bin Laden family through the infamous Carlyle Group. LINK The Secrets of September 11 April 30, 2003 One such CIA briefing, in July 2001, was particularly chilling and prophetic. It predicted that Osama bin Laden was about to launch a terrorist strike in the coming weeks, the congressional investigators found. The intelligence briefing went on to say: The attack will be spectacular and designed to inflict mass casualties against United States facilities or interests. July 3, 2001 A plot by Saudi master terrorist, Osama bin Laden, to assassinate Dubya during the July 20 economic summit of world leaders, was uncovered after dozens of suspected Islamic militants linked to bin Ladens international terror network were arrested in Frankfurt, Germany, and Milan, Italy, in April. The disclosures add to a growing body of evidence to be examined in congressional hearings that open today into how the CIA, FBI and other agencies failed to seize on intelligence pointing to the deadliest terror attack in United States history. US agents told: Back off bin Ladens November 7, 2001 US special agents were told to back off the bin Laden family and the Saudi royals soon after George Bush became president, although that has all changed since September 11, it was reported today. We cannot guarantee the accuracy of the links - online publications often archive their articles in password-protected areas. If you know where an article has been moved to, and that location is viewable by anyone, we would appreciate your letting us know. |