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2004/2/22-23 [Politics/Domestic/Election] UID:12352 Activity:nil
2/22    Who will Cal Deaniacs support now that Dean is out of the race?
        \_ I wasn't a Deaniac, but I think most people will do what I do:
           not necessary get involved in the process, nor donating money, but
           *WILL* do his/her part cast his/her vote to make sure Bush out of
           office.
           \_ oh yeah?  which of the half dozen or so states where your vote
              actually matters are you planning to move to before november?
           \_ No one can get elected without the support of independent voters.
              If you put up some zero like Kerry who has no draw from that
              demographic you're doomed.  Instead of worrying about the other
              guy with that "anyone buy Bush" theme, why don't you support a
              real candidate that you actually like?  Success will follow.
              \_ I'm not the guy above, but there were two candidates who
                 I actually liked, and they've both left the field before
                 I even had a chance to vote.  By super tuesday, it's
                 already become a lesser of evils game.
              \_ So Deaniacs should just go ahead and vote for Dean in the
                 general election no matter what? I'm sure that will work.
                 \_ no, your party already screwed it up by voting for someone
                    based on their belief about his ability to defeat the
                    other guy as opposed to their faith in him as a person.
                    meaning they think they know how independent voters will
                    vote and tried to second guess them by presenting the
                    candidate they believed would get the most (I) voters,
                    but instead ended up with a passionless elitist cog who
                    is going to get his ass handed to him.  as one of those
                    (I) voters you so badly need I assure you that Kerry isn't
                    on my short list.
                    \_ Passionless elitist cog?  are you talking about
                       George Bush, who achieved NOTHING on his own?
                       got into Harvard with 1200 on SAT, using family
                       connection to get him out of Vietnam (serving
                       national guard instead), won presidency by asking
                       his brother perform what I considered as vote
                       fraud.
                        \_ Can you please elaborate on what he 'asked'
                           his brother to do?  Jeb Bush recused himself
                           from the recount.
                        \_ As an (I) I'm totally turned off by your anti-Bush
                           rhetoric.  This is exactly the reason you're going
                           to lose to Bush again.  You attack the other guy
                           but say nothing about why I should vote for your
                           guy.  As an (I) I prefer the evil I know to the
                           unknown but certain evil of your guy.  You don't
                           even like your own guy, so why should I?
                   \_ You don't get it.  Most of the time, people vote
                      *AGAINST* someone than *FOR* someone.  I have no
                      idea who Kerry is, but I know that 1. He is not
                      Bush, and 2. everyone around me who think like me
                      will vote for him.  and that is good enough.  For
                      many of us, nothing can be worse than President Bush
                      right now.
                      \_ And your friends are a fair mix of the general voting
                         public?  I doubt it.  Give people someone to vote
                         *for* and you'll see Bush out of office by a landslide
                         but instead you give us (I) voters no choices.
                    \_ You need to wake up. Everyone is basically an (I). You
                       are obviously liberal, therefore you're stuck with the
                       Democrats. That's the way it is, kid. The conservatives
                       don't all like Bush either. Kerry and Edwards are the
                       candidates the most people are comfortable with. They
                       never act weird like Dean, and have a political history
                       unlike Clark. Sorry the world is too boring for you.
                       If you don't like it, voting for a third party doesn't
                       change anything. It's a lazy way to pretend you actually
                       care while doing nothing. Just stay home.
                       \_ I'm not liberal.  I'm also not conservative.  I am
                          definitely *not* stuck voting for Kerry.  I can stay
                          home or vote for Bush or Nader or anyone else I like.
                          I'm not voting for Kerry if I show up.
              \_ Go away, Naderboy.
                 \_ whatever, wrong call.
              \_ I'm a decline-to-state and I hate Kerry and Dean both as
                 well as Bush. If Clark or Kucinich made it I'd probably
                 vote for them, and perhaps for Edwards. I might vote for
                 Kucinich anyway. I despise Bush, but I'm not voting Kerry
                 to keep Bush out of office.
                 \_ why do you "hate" all those guys?
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