2/20 What France really said about WMD:
AMANPOUR: Do you believe that Saddam Hussein has weapons of mass
destruction; for instance, chemical or biological weapons?
PRESIDENT CHIRAC: Well, I don't know. I have no evidence to support
that... It seems that there are no nuclear weapons - no nuclear weapons
program. That is something that the inspectors seem to be sure of.
As for weapons of mass destruction, bacteriological, biological,
chemical, we don't know. And that is precisely what the
inspectors' mandate is all about. But rushing into war, rushing
into battle today is clearly a disproportionate response."
\_ You and your damn facts!
\_ "They've got bigger dicks? BOMB THEM!" --GC
\_ You mean France only made a single statement about WMD's? Wow,
why'd they sign up for 1441 then?
\_ If he wants to cherry pick to make his points, he can do that.
He isn't convincing anyone but himself and preaching to the
choir, but I'm sure it makes him feel good and that's what this
is all about, right? Feeling good?
\_ Y'know what? Our claim regarding noncomplience with
Resolution 1441 has yet to be vindicated. 1441 said to
make full disclosure and allow inspectors in. They made
their disclosure and let inspectors in. We said their
disclosure wasn't full. We have yet to prove ourselves
right.
\_ Full disclosure isn't possible anymore since the Iraqis
claim they destroyed tons of documents and materials. You
have the whole thing backwards. We never had to prove
1441, it was a requirement for the other side.
\_ Reread what I said. We (The U.S.) claimed that we
were right to go in because the actions taken by Iraq
hadn't brought them into compliance. Apparently, as
we haven't found evidence to the contrary, they were
as much in compliance as possible. I'm not challenging
the resolution. I'm challenging our unilateral claim
that they were still in breach of it. -- And wait a
minute.. Reread what you said. "They claimed they had
destroyed ... materials." So... They claimed they
destroyed it as per 1441, and ... the materials aren't
there. Hrm... Whose side are you arguing?
\_ You are the one who has repeatedly claimed that France
believed Iraq was in possesion of WMD in spite of
overwhelming evidence to the contrary. I have repeatedly
asked for proof of your claim and you cannot come up
with one shred of evidence. Your position is laughable.
That's not what yermom told me! _/
So I guess yes, laughing at you makes me feel good.
Do you still call them Freedom Fries?
\_ 1441 was sold to the UN members as a way of forcing Iraq
to allow weapon's inspectors in. And it worked. It was not
sold as authorizing a war against Iraq. Remember the US
tried to go back to the UN and get another authorization
and gave up once it became clear that France, Russia and
Germany were all against it? Go read 1441. It warns Iraq
of "serious consequences" but nothing else. It also
affirms Iraq's territorial soveriegnty.
\_ serious consequence like France, Germany loosing their
oil contract bribes from Oil for food programs?
\_ boo hoo! those darn germans and french are getting
all the contracts. The only ones who should get
contracts from dictators are us! Like how we got
all the weapons and oil contracts from Suharto while
all the weapons and oil contracts with Suharto when
he was butchering the East Timorese! The Germans and
that we can be te ones to get the oil contracts!
Only we can have good motives, the Germans and French
can only have ulterior motives!
French are not playing fair! Let's invade Iraq so
that we can get our oil contracts! Only we can have
good motives, the Germans and French can only have
ulterior motives! |