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2/2     What do people think of the Vagina Monologues? Is it worth seeing?
        \_I enjoyed it all three times I've seen it, but then again I know a
          quarter of the cast.  If you have a girlfriend/date your assured to
          get laid if you take her.
        \_ Heh.  Isn't that the one where a 13 year old girl gets raped,
           and then it's supposedly 'good rape.'
           \_ No, it is a middle aged woman speaking sort of a feminist
              diatribe. I am pretty much a SNAG, but I found it to be kind of
              dull. The women I went with all enjoyed it. I do remember one
              funny line from it: "My vagina is Angry!". That cracked me up.
              \_ Hey Mr. SNAG, you really should do your research before saying
                 'no.'  In fact, there was a 13 year old getting raped in the
                 original version, but it's a 16 year old now, and references
                 to 'good rape' were removed.  Vagina Monologues are trash,
                 bordering on criminal trash.
                 \_ Have you ever actually seen it performed, or are you
                    just parroting some crap you read on Freep?
                    \_ http://www.equityfeminism.com/articles/2000/000029.html
                       Google for 'vagina monologues 13 year old'.  I don't
                       need to see it performed to consider it trash.  I
                       haven't seen most things I consider bad face to face.
                       Thank God for that.
                       \_ "I said VAGINA at least a dozen times a day for two
                           months, and I was able to reclaim it as a word."
                           \_ Vagina no longer refers to a woman's parts?
                       \_ So in other words, there is no scene where a "13 year
                          old girl gets raped" no line about a "good rape"
                          and everything you know about the play is from
                          something someone else told you about it. And yet
                          you are certain you are the authority and I am
                          wrong, even though I have seen it. Gotcha.
                          \_ There was a scene where a 13 year old girl
                             describes being raped by an older (over 18)
                             person.  And then says 'if it was rape it was
                             good rape.'  This scene was REMOVED in subsequent
                             versions, as has been said several times.  What
                             exactly are you questioning here?  Are you saying
                             this line never existed?  Because I can easily
                             prove you wrong.  The play is trash for this
                             reason alone.
                             \_ I pointed out that there was no 13 yo rape.
                                I saw it and can verify that fact. The person
                                was asking "should I go see The Vagina
                                Monologues?" not "should I have gone and
                                seen Vagina Monologues four years ago?"
                                There is no rape scene and you are wrong,
                                just admit it. A bunch of women talk about
                                there experiences being raped, but none of
                                them are 13. Say it "you were right
                                and I am wrong." It's not that hard, is it?
                \_ what's SNAG?
                   \_ Sensitive New Age Guy
                      \_ Also used ironically to describe guys who claim to be
                         sensitive, kind etc but are really just
                         passive-agressive pussies.
        \_ I have not seen Vagina Monologues, but I have seen Eve Ensler
           and I think she's a strong speaker.  -tom
           \_ Is it worth seeing if it is other girls putting it on? -op
              \_ girls?  These are wymyn you insensitive rapist clod!
           \_ Hm, when I saw it was not Eve Ensler doing it. Perhaps it
              would have been better if it was by her. -SNAG
        \_ Why would you pay good money to see a woman whine and bash men?
                \_ you're right, it's better not to know.  Ignorance is Truth.
           You can pay less to take out some random chick and maybe get laid
           and less than that gets you a bj with no whining.
           \_ you're right, it's better not to know.  Ignorance is Truth.
              \_ prove me wrong.  all i've seen so far is "you're a pig!" which
           and less than that gets you a bj with no whining.
                 only proves me right.
           \_ From someone who obviously hasn't seen it..
              \_ "My vagina is ANGRY!"  Uhm yeah.  I missed that line
                 somewhere.  Take your sensitive 90s ass somewhere else.  Very
                 few guys get laid with that attitude and none have ever been
                 laid posting anonymously on the motd that way.
                 \_ I'd hate to see the women that sleep with your ignant
                    ass.
                    \_ I've yet to be corrected, only insulted.  Is your vagina
                       still ANGRY?
                 \_ No one has ever been laid posting anonymously on the motd.
                    In that way, or any other way, so I guess I have to
                 laid posting anonymously on the motd that way.
                    agree with you there.
                    \_ don't make me make a 'yermom' joke.
           \_ Yay! Ignorant misogyny is still free on the motd!
           \_ Yay! Ignorant misogyny is still free on the motd!
              \_ I've yet to be corrected, only insulted.  Is your vagina
                 still ANGRY?  [you weren't worth a new unique reply]
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The Good Rape: The Vagina Monologues Returns By Brian Carnell Monday, August 7, 2000 Even if I tried, I dont think I could write a parody of the contemporary feminist movement that accomplished half of what The Vagina Monologues did last year. For those of you who havent yet heard of this play, the Vagina Monologues features women representing vaginas who talk about their experiences onstage. The premise is typically wacky, and meant to focus on issues of domestic violence. The play earned a lot of criticism, however, for its positive portrayal of the statutory rape of a 13 year old girl by a 24 year old woman. At the conclusion of that scene, the 13 year old girl tells the audience that it might have been rape, but well, I say if it was rape, it was a good rape. If a male playwright depicted the statutory rape of a 13 year old girl by a 24 year old man and then had the girl say that if it was rape, it was a good rape, feminists would never stop grousing about the play and rightly so, but as is typical among leftist movements, the same rules simply dont apply to feminists. That part of the play reached national attention when a male columnist at Georgetowns student newspaper was fired for writing a column asking if there was such a thing as a good rape in the official explanation of his dismissal, the paper complained the student had attacked a womens issue on campus. Com press release specifically warns colleges thinking about performing the play that they will be given a special script and, You must use the version of the script of The Vagina Monologues that is included in the Performance Kit that you will receive. Do not use the book of the play or versions of the script from previous College Initiatives. And you may not exclude or change the order of any of the monologues. McElroy speculates that the V-Day folks want to do a little rewriting of history and exclude the now infamous good rape scene. Either way, the play and the reactions to it will provide yet more examples of the intellectually bankrupt nature of the radical feminist enterprise. Com press, from a woman who staged the play, release intended to show the life altering potential The Vagina Monologues possesses: Overall, I loved how I felt being part of a movement that empowers women. During the months leading up to the performances, and especially during the few weeks just prior to the event, I relished in the fact that I was able to use the word vagina in my everyday vocabulary. Every time I saw a cast member on campus, we would speak loudly and confidently about how excited we were to be part of The VAGINA Monologues. During staff meetings and in casual conversation with College Deans, I would ask of they were going to attend The VAGINA Monologues. In dining halls, the campus store, in libraries, bars and restaurants, it was my favorite topic of conversation. Because of the College Initiative, I said VAGINA at least a dozen times a day for two months, and I was able to reclaim it as a word. All that rhetoric about seeing women as more than sex objects and respecting women as moral, social and political equals;