1/23    Any opinions on best car under $50K? I've got a BMW 3 series now I am
        going to keep, but not sure I want another (5 series) because a change
        might be nice.
        \_ I'm going to resist the urge to delete your post and just tell you
           to fuck off and die.  You're welcome.
        \_ buy a vintage pinto.
           \_ What a miserable fuck you are.
        \_ wrx sti or a legacy b4 turbo.
        \_ E36 M3. Much cheaper than $50K and fun.
        \_ If you've got that much money to burn, how about I sell you my
           Corolla for $50k?
        \_ Keep up with clothes fashions in stead.  It's a lot cheaper.
        \_ Why waste $50k on a car?
           \_ Instead of buying the Ferrari I can SAVE $50k by buying the Beamer
           \_ Why waste any money on a car when I can buy a beater for
              $1000, right? Don't tell me you spend all of your money on
              utilitarian things. It's okay to have a few nice things.
              \_ those aren't the only two alternatives.  What about 20k for
                 a car and 30k for a boat.  Now you have a decent, comfortable
                 car *and* a boat.  I don't think that a 50k car is ever better
                 by a factor of 2.5 than a 20k car in any really useful way.
                 These choices all reflect a personal value system.  In my
                 view some value systems are simply better than others, and
                 the kind of person who would spend 50k on a car is best
                 summed up by the term "asshole."
                 \_ heh, like the boss from _willard_?
                 \_ In my value system, a boat is a waste of money (hole
                    in the water into which you throw money - better off
                    chartering a boat the 1x a year you use it) and $20K car is
                    a POS. I am very glad to be rid of my Nissan and my
                    Honda for the BMW.
              \_ what if i do tell you that?
                 \_ Then you're an idiot.
              \_ Nothing wrong with wanting nice things, But $50k for something
                 with a terrific depreciation rate is a bit silly.  I spent
                 $60 for a good kitchen knife by telling myself it'll last
                 forever if i take good care of it.
                 \_ I see. So how much to spend on a car is not silly?
                    $1K? $2K? $20K? $40K?
                 \_ What about leasing?  I don't know anyone with a 50k plus
                    car that actually bought it.
        \_ E36 M3. Much cheaper than $50K and fun.
                \_ Is that 900kg all carbon-fiber M3 available on the US?
                   The CSL looks pretty cool.  -John
                   \_ E36 is the generation before the current E46. I don't
                      think it's all carbon-fiber.
           \_ Why E36 M3 over E46 M3?
        \_ wrx sti or a legacy b4 turbo.
        \_ MB SLR McClaren.