1/20    spam filter poll. did you use only one and are happy, or have
        you tried one, then switched to the other, and are happy?
        spamassassin: ..
          \_ Constantly need to tweak .spamassassin/user_prefs
        ifile: ..
               \_ Blocks 60 per day with 1 false positive every couple of
                  months. -scotsman
                \_ been usin' ifile, but I get soo much spam it what it lets
                   through is still ridiculous.
                   \_ Do you retrain? -scotsman
        ifile, then spamassassin:
        spamassassin, then ifile:
        none of them work:
        misc:
        SA, then ifile, then SA+ifile: very happy.  If SA+ifile thinks it's
        spam, then it's spam.  If just ifile thinks it's spam, it's almost
        certainly (95%) spam.
        \_ just a comment on false positives.  One false positive a month
           is bad.  Why?  Who wants to go through their whole spam folder
           daily looking for false positives?  If you get to the point
           where you don't double-check for false positives, that means
           false positives = unreceived personal email = very bad.
           \_ going through a spam folder every few days is a lot less of
              a pain in the butt than having all your real email squished
              inbetween the spam.  It takes like 30 seconds to scan the
              subjects and say "nope, all spam, nuke it".
           \_ Well, duh.  If I were depending on email for my job, I wouldn't
              run a spam filter.  But my soda mail is just personal email,
              and anyone who sends there has my cell number, so it's simply
              a convenience to use a spam filter.  If a false positive is
              a big deal, don't filter at all.  Nothing gives 0 false
              positives. -scotsman
              \_ ifile gives way more false positives than spamassassin,
                 so if that's your concern, you shouldn't use ifile.  In my
                 experience, ifile also lets way more spam through, but
                 because it's Bayseian it depends on the type of spam and
                 regular mail you get.  -tom
              \_ Combining SA+ifile (SA blocks score 5 or higher) has never
                 given me a false positive.  I might as well be sending that
                 to /dev/null.  I do review the stuff that one xor the other
                 flags as spam, which turns up 1 false-positive every 3-4
                 months
        \_ SA works great, as long as the version is recent. I use
           SA here and SA + yahoo junk mail filter on my well account,
           which I give out to marketers.
        \_ spamprobe works well for me.  in the three months i've been
           using it, it has not had a false positive.  to me, this is very
           important because i don't want to spend time to going through
           the spam folder looking for that one non-spam email.  its false
           negative rate is comparable to ifile in my experience.  the one
           downside is that the db file is ridiculously huge.