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1/14    Has anybody else tried iTunes (the player) simply as a winamp
        substitute?  I'm nearly weeping at how *nice* it is.  Would someone
        kindly point me toward the kool-aid?
        \_ does it play mp3s, or does it need to convert to their format?
           \_ it plays mp3s.
        \_ what does it do that is so improved over winamp?
           \_ free kool-aid
             \_ english translation?
           \_ I'm not a mac/ipod person but I love iTunes. It's got a great
              UI for organizing and finding your music if you have a lot of
              files. For me it's replaced 4 programs (player, CD ripper,
              CD burner, and id3-tagger) and it does all of their functions
              well. It's also cool to use it at work if your coworkers use
              it because you can check out everyone's music at your leisure.
              Can someone explain the kool-aid references? I've heard this
              before but I don't get it. - !op
              \_ google "jim jones" and cult
                 \_ Wait wait, so anything Apple related is a cult?  You're
                    so phunny!
                    \_ I didn't say Apple was a cult, but I was pointing them
                         to the origin of the kool-aid reference.
                    \_ yes, they managed to sell millions of people a device
                       with a non-rechargable and non-replacable battery.  and
                       the evil little things continue to sell like hotcackes.
                       if that isn't a cult I don't know what is.  I don't
                       know of any other company that could get away with that
                       sort of shit without 99% return rates.
                       \_ non-rechargable?!?!  Why do I not believe you?
                          \_ http://ipodbatteryfaq.com
                             \_ thanks for the faq.  as it says, it is going
                                to cost bucks to get the battery problem taken
                                care of.  it's a cult.  and to the person who
                                doesn't believe me, don't interrupt.  i moved
                                your thread down here where it belongs, not in
                                the middle of my statements.  it's rude and
                                makes the whole thread hard to read.
                                \_ I posted both the question, AND the faq.
                                   your statement was false - it IS
                                   rechargable, just not easily replaced.
                                   \_ My error in word choice but not intent.
                                      I intended to say that once the battery
                                      is dead it is dead.  I did not mean that
                                      you get 6-8 hours of play and then it
                                      turns off forever.  I stand by my
                                      statement that only a cult could sell a
                                      device by the millions that will die in
                                      18-24 months and just be dead without
                                      shelling out an additional $50 to $100.
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ipodbatteryfaq.com -> ipodbatteryfaq.com/
I heard that the iPods battery only lasts 18 months, and then you have to buy a new iPod! When does Apple consider the battery defective for purposes of warranty replacement? What is the best way to handle charging/discharging/storage of lithium ion batteries? Is it okay to leave the iPod in the dock, or otherwise attached to external power, for extended periods of time? Is there any way to use an external battery pack, or standard AA batteries? Apple only released their battery replacement service because of all the bad publicity from iPods Dirty Secret. The program requires that you send in your iPod any model, and Apple will replace the battery and return it to you for $99. AppleCare programs for iPod will also soon be available in Europe , and are expected soon in other markets. The iPods case is not designed to be opened, so, in that respect, its not what would generally be referred to as user-replaceable. Often these plans simply replace the product with a comparable new unit. Apple is consistently ranked number one in product quality and support by leading consumer groups, such as Consumer Reports. Apple also has out-of-warranty service and extended warranty options. Q: I heard that the iPods battery only lasts 18 months, and then you have to buy a new iPod! The vast, vast majority of even the earliest iPods, now over two years old, continue to function just fine. Lithium ion batteries are only good for 300 to 500 charge/discharge cycles more . For this reason, certain customers usage patterns may cause the batteries to degrade, or fail, sooner than others. A2: If the battery does fail, and the iPod is no longer under its original one year warranty or $59 AppleCare Protection Plan for iPod , or any of numerous third party service plans, you dont have to buy a new iPod. You may replace the battery yourself for as little as $49 , or have Apple perform the replacement for $99. Over time, the battery will not hold the same amount of charge as when it was new. This slow degradation will not affect, or be noticed by, most users. However, based on usage, environmental factors, and many other variables, some heavy users may notice a greater degradation than others. Under good conditions, you should indeed get around 8 hours of battery life on a new iPod. This amount varies with age, usage style, and other factors, such as music format, backlight use, etc. To get the most out of your battery, follow these tips: iPod: How to Get the Most Out of the Battery Apple iPod: About Battery Care Apple A battery which only lasts for half 4 hours, or less, of the specified time of 8 hours may be considered to be defective under warranty terms. However, you should follow the steps in this document to test your battery life in a controlled way: iPod: The Battery Status Indicator Is Approximate Apple Q: When does Apple consider the battery defective for purposes of warranty replacement? 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