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1/11    http://apnews.myway.com/article/20040112/D8011T080.html so if Dean
        was pro-war in the fall of 2002, how can anyone say they're voting for
        Dean because he opposes the war?
        [reposted after some self deluded person deleted it to avoid the truth]
        \_ Here's the only quote on the subject in the 2nd to last paragraph:
           "Kerry said that in fall 2002, Dean spoke in support of
            congressional legislation that would have given Bush the authority
            to use force in Iraq, so long as he notified Congress in advance."
           Dean has said repeatedly that he did not think the war was
           _justified_ based on the evidence at the time(March 2003).  He
           asserted from the beginning of the war that there was not enough
           proof concerning the harboring of WMD by Saddam.  Turns out he was
           correct.
           The fact that he supported giving the president the power to go to
           war is different from supporting the war.  Dean supported giving
           Bush the power to go to war, but Bush abused the power.  These are
           different issues, and Kerry and you are both disingenuous.
           \_ Wow that was an amazing piece of dodging and duck work!  Sir,
              I salute you for your single minded determination to stick to
              your guns (so to speak) despite clear contrary evidence!  Three
              cheers for selective blindness!
              \_ As if any piece of selective blindness could match the
                 the article you posted.
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apnews.myway.com/article/20040112/D8011T080.html
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