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1/7 Hillary Clinton jokes about Mahatma Gandhi and Gas stations:
http://tinyurl.com/3a6ch
\_ Why are conservatives so obsessed with Hillary Clinton?
\_ Well I dunno could it be she is the star of the
Democratic party and is fawned over by the media?
\_ Good one. That had me going for ages...
Why do the commies obsess over Bush?
\_ Hey, didn't you get the memo? You're suppposed to
call people "terrorists" now, not "commies."
\_ Hah! i knew it--you're a Soviet spy, aren't you?
\_ Because they hate women and fear peace and understanding.
\_ there are lots of good conservative women out there.
\_ Yes, barefoot and pregnant and in the kitchen, right?
\_ once again, leftists stereotypes persist.
\_ Surely they're only stereotypes if they're not
based on real-life examples.
\_ wow, what an asshole, even for a troll.
\_ Aw, did I hit a nerve?
\_ not at all. you're just a troll and an
asshole. your stereotype is sexist and
anti-intellectual as well as being just
plain wrong which makes you stupid as well.
\_ Please. The core Repub values include
archaic gender roles and the recognition
of male superiority. If you haven't
figure this out by now, you're not paying
attention.
\_ I agree. you are a troll and an idiot.
I'm refering to 'Surely they're only
stereotypes if they're not based
on real life examples'
\_ why are you and far leftists so anti-pregnant?
is it so wrong to be pregnant? Is it wrong
to have a family?
\_ it's only ok if you're republican.
\_ That's what the Repubs tell us.
\_ I'm not. She got a lucky niche in NY when the competition
was forced to bow out for medical reasons. That's as far as
her political career will ever go. She's not a has-been, but
more like a never-was-or-will-be. I say you boys should put
her up for election every 4 years forever. --conservative
\_ So that's why she's the most admired woman in America?
\_ One has little to do with the other. It is *very*
common for the First Lady to get that title each year
yet none of them ever had a chance of being elected to
anything. Apples n oranges.
\_ She got that "title" this year too, dunderhead.
\_ Uh yeah, go re-read what I said and seek the less
juvenile interpretation. Assume I'm aware of who
juvenile interpretation. Assume I'm award of who
the current President, FL, and Jr. Senator from NY
are at the present time. Anyway, getting the most
admired title has nothing to do with election
chances. It's only a measure of how many people
can name her from thin air. She's done little that's
actually admirable, especially if you're one of her
White House Travel Office or other victims.
\_ the report I heard said that the First Lady doesn't
get most admired woman status (remember, First Lady
is Mrs. Bush).
\_ I said it is very common for her to do so in the past
which is not the same as 100% of the time. Why must
I explain such trivial statements to college students
or possibly graduates?
\_ Because you make overreaching generalizations
and fail to back them up with anything resembling
sense. Speak clearly, or stfu.
\_ It was neither overreaching or required a lot
of sense to understand. The problem is the
reader, not the writer in this case.
\_ Actually, you said that many First Ladies
win the title of "most admired." You did not
expand to include ex-First Ladies. Again,
sense. Speak clearly, or stfu.
speak clearly, or stfu.
\_ Clinton isn't still president?!
\_ Clinton isn't still president?!
\_ He is on TV. Watch more West Wing.
\_ You must be a very important man indeed to consider a
United States Senator a nobody. Can I ask which billionaire
or head of state is posting in the motd?
\_ The Jr. Senator from NY who has written no legislation and
or head of state is posting in the motd?
co-authored nothing and chairs no committees and is a
member of the minority party? Oh, please. My dog's vet
is more important.
\_ Once upon a time, prior to the great depression, the Hayes Code,
gas chambers (and gas stations), in the era of the Thin Man and
W.C. Fields, when America desperately needed a collective drink,
there was a thing called humor. It was funny. Hillary Clinton
is about as funny as plague. The gas station joke, on the other
hand, is very funny. -John
\_ I dunno... which plague are you referring to?
\_ I didn't get the joke. Can you explain it please?
\_ Lets not forget about her "fucking jew bastard" comment.
\_ That's ok. She's part-Jew (it's very trendy these days to claim
most admired woman so it's ok.
some Jew blood but don't actually be a real Jew because we hate
them) so she can say things like that. And anyway, she's the
most admired woman so it's ok.
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| tinyurl.com/3a6ch -> www.cnn.com/2004/ALLPOLITICS/01/06/elec04.s.mo.farmer.clinton.ap/index.html Hillary Rodham Clinton apologized for joking that Mahatma Gandhi used to run a gas station in St. During an event here for Senate candidate Nancy Farmer, Clinton introduced a quote from Gandhi by saying, He ran a gas station down in St. After laughter from many in the crowd of at least 200 subsided, the former first lady continued, No, Mahatma Gandhi was a great leader of the 20th century. Kit Bond, Clinton quoted the Indian independence leader as saying: First they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they fight you, then you win. The director of a United States center devoted to Gandhis teachings called the remarks stereotypical and racially insensitive, while an educator said the flap underscored the need for politicians to be cautious when trying to get laughs. Political speeches cant be like episodes of The Simpsons, said David Robertson, a University of Missouri-St. After being approached by The Associated Press to clarify the remarks, Clinton suggested in a statement sent late Monday that she never meant to fuel any stereotype - often used as a comedic punch line - that certain ethnic groups were synonymous with operating Americas gas stations. I have admired the work and life of Mahatma Gandhi and have spoken publicly about that many times, Clinton said in a two-sentence statement. So does Michelle Naef, administrator of the MK Gandhi Institute for Nonviolence, the Memphis, Tennessee-based nonprofit group founded in 1991 by a Gandhi grandson to promote his grandfathers teachings, including nonviolent resistance. While crediting Clinton and her husband, former President Clinton, as long having supported the Gandhi message, Naef said Saturdays remarks could be incredibly harmful in perpetuating racial myths. I dont think she was, in any way, trying to demean Mahatma Gandhi, Naef said. To be generous to her, I would say it was a poor attempt at humor. Perhaps Im overly sensitive, but I find it offensive when people use stereotypes in that way. To Robertson, the professor, the flap demonstrates the potential peril of when humor by politicians falls flat. The more prominent the politician, the more theyve taken positions on equality in the past as Mrs. Clinton has, the more this is going to be troubling to some people, he said. Its understandable that groups want to make sure theyre treated with complete respect. When it comes to Hillary Clinton, he said, theres no reason to think she doesnt admire Gandhi, like so many people do. |