Berkeley CSUA MOTD:Entry 11689
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2004/1/6 [Politics/Domestic/Immigration, Politics/Domestic/President/Bush] UID:11689 Activity:nil
1/6     Go Bush: Bush pro-immigration:
        http://www.cnn.com/2004/ALLPOLITICS/01/06/elec04.prez.bush.immigration/index.html
        \_ http://csua.org/u/5g0
        \_ It's all about bringing in cheap farm labor so you can eat your
           all vegan diet instead of paying the real cost for your food.
           \_ good for economy, good for national security, good
              for immigrants, good for Mexico, good for the Bush, good
              for the country.
           \_ But those cheap labor are sending money to their home countries,
              hurting US economy.  Plus they are breaking the law and they
              are cutting in front of those waiting in line for years to
              immigrate legally.  I guess nobody cares about the law and
              fairness these days.
              \_ what if it is a separate queue?
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www.cnn.com/2004/ALLPOLITICS/01/06/elec04.prez.bush.immigration/index.html
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WASHINGTON CNN - President Bush will outline an immigration reform proposal Wednesday that would allow workers in the United States illegally to join a new temporary worker program and not lose their jobs, administration officials said. Those immigrants could then apply for permanent residency, although those in the temporary worker program would get no preference over other Green Card applicants, the officials said. About 150 guests will be invited to the White House East Room to hear the address, including members of immigration groups and others interested in such policy, said White House press secretary Scott McClellan. Allowing those who illegally entered the United States to come forward and keep their jobs is the most controversial aspect of the plan. Administration officials rejected the notion that it would amount to amnesty for illegal immigrants. They said there is no guarantee those who join the new temporary worker program would qualify for Green Cards. The workers would have no advantages if they do apply, the officials said, and they would be expected to return to their country of origin when their temporary visa expired. Officials said the measure was designed largely for economic reasons - to match willing workers with willing employers, as administration officials put it. The officials said the employers would have to show they cannot find United States citizens to fill their jobs. They said getting undocumented workers to come forward would bring them into the tax system and out of the shadows, as one official put it, and guarantee them wage and employment rights. One of Bushs goals, the officials said, was to promote compassion and get Congress and the country to understand the broken system that now includes an estimated 8 million undocumented immigrants, most of them from Mexico. The initiative will be unveiled days before Bushs visit next week to Mexico for a regional summit and talks with Mexican President Vicente Fox. Immigration policy has been a source of frequent tension between the two leaders. We have discussed for a long time with Mexico the need for a more humane, safe, orderly migration policy, McClellan said. But he said the September 11 attacks forced a shift in focus to border security. According to several senior administration officials, Bushs initiative includes such highlights as: The new temporary worker program would include a three-year temporary visa, and Bush will ask Congress to allow one renewal - for six years in all. Officials said they were open to allowing additional terms, subject to congressional negotiation. The program would be open to both legal and illegal immigrants, so long as those without papers could prove they were working in the United States as of the date the new policy becomes law. Officials said that requirement would discourage a flood of new illegal immigration. Those who qualify as new legal temporary workers could apply for permanent residency under existing laws but would not receive favorable treatment. But the administration will urge Congress to increase the limit of 140,000 Green Cards issued each year. The White House initiative is modeled after several pending proposals in Congress. Jim Kolbe, for example, has called for a temporary worker program if employers first posted jobs on the Internet for 14 days to give United States citizens first crack at the positions. It also tracks many proposals advocated by Democrats, who suspect that Bushs true goal is to court the growing Latino population. In 2000, 7 percent of all voters were Hispanic, but Bush garnered only 35 percent of that vote to former Vice President Al Gores 65 percent. I certainly hope the administrations long-awaited re-involvement in this fundamental debate is genuine, and not because of election year conversion, said Democratic Sen. Among Bushs allies in the debate is the United States Chamber of Commerce. Randel Johnson, a chamber vice president who deals with immigration issues, said including workers who illegally entered the United States is perhaps controversial but in his view, necessary. The reality of it is we are not going to deport all these people, Johnson said. Thomas Tancredo is among the congressional conservatives who promise to fight provisions they view as rewarding lawbreakers. People who are here illegally - they need to be deported, Tancredo said.