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2004/1/3 [Politics/Domestic/Election] UID:11653 Activity:nil
1/2     Dean talks about race:  http://csua.org/u/5em
        (and the article sounds pretty pro-Dean)
        \_ republicans get poor white southerners to vote against their
           economic interests primarily by appealing to racism.  Dean
           understands this better than the other leading candidates, and
           has a better chance of trying to battle this strategy than they
           do.
                \_ troll?  The irony here is this behavior is exactly why you,
                   Dean and the Dems are doomed in the South.  Read Zell
                   Millers new book.  The South was solidly Democrat until the
                   late 70s, BTW.
                \_ troll?  The irony here is this exactly why you, Dean
        \_ I like the part where ihe meantions that it was wierd to be the
           only white guy in a romm of black guys.  Of course that's
           wierd.  But you get used to it.  I spent 2 years in a country
           full of Korean guys. It was only wierd for the first 2 minutes.
                   and the Dems are doomed in the South.  Read Zell Millers
                   new book.  The South was solidly Democrat until the late
                   70s, BTW.
        \_ Th3 D0ct0r 15 1n!
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csua.org/u/5em -> www.boston.com/news/globe/editorial_opinion/oped/articles/2004/01/02/deans_blunt_talk_about_race?mode=PF
News / Boston Globe / Opinion / Op-ed / Deans blunt talk about race. DERRICK Z JACKSON Deans blunt talk about race By Derrick Z Jackson, Globe Columnist, 1/2/2004 CHARLESTON, SC HOWARD DEAN SAID, Im trying to gently call out the white population. His genteel example was a story he tells to voters about how his chief of staff as governor of Vermont was always a woman. After two or three years, Dean noticed that she had a matriarchy in the office. When the chief of staff was going to hire a new person, Dean said, he told her, I notice we have a gender imbalance in the office, and I wonder if you could find a man. She said its really hard to find a qualified man. I got everybody laughing about that. That is Deans icebreaker to get audiences to understand institutional racism. The punch line of the story that its so hard to find a qualified man is everybody does it. Everybody tends to hire people like themselves. And I get them all nodding, including the African-Americans in the audience. He went on to talk about a consultant who runs political campaigns in Washington. The consultant was kept on to hire the staff for one of his candidates who won a city council race. In the first staff meeting before the guy took office, they looked around and said, Oh-oh. Everyone was male, and everyone was African-American. This was a softer Dean than the one excoriated by his competitors for the Democratic presidential nomination for saying he wanted to appeal to white guys with Confederate flags on their pickup trucks. For all the fire of that moment, Dean said the Democrats cannot run away from a blunt, if gently blunt, discussion about race. Dealing with race is about educating white folks, Dean said in an interview Tuesday on a campaign swing through the first primary state where African-American voters will have a major impact. Not because white people are worse than black people about race but because whites are in the majority, and therefore the behavior of whites has a much bigger influence on hiring practices and so forth and so on than the behavior of African-Americans. It is unknown whether Deans style of education will have a big influence on either white or African-American primary voters at the expense of, say, Wesley Clarks experience with affirmative action in the military or John Edwardss Clintonesque folksiness. While the Republicans have baldly capitulated to racism in modern presidential campaigns, such as appearing at Bob Jones University and claiming we are so close to a colorblind society that affirmative action programs can be dismantled, the Democrats have struggled to find a message that attracts swing white voters and loyal voters of color at the same. The last Democrat in the White House, Bill Clinton, who was hugely popular with African-American voters, started a national discussion on race but abandoned it during the Monica Lewinsky scandal. Clinton also never challenged Republican-inspired laws that had a disastrous impact on young African-Americans and Latinos, such as mandatory sentencing and much harsher jail terms for possession of crack cocaine than for powdered cocaine. Dean would not discuss the Clinton era. He did say that as president, he would try to end disproportionate drug sentencing and mandatory sentencing. He said he is a firm supporter of affirmative action. He said perhaps preferential points could be given to companies seeking federal contracts who can demonstrate diversity. Dean said proactive measures are still necessary to counteract the unconscious biases that confirmed by many studies showing that job discrimination continues to be a major problem. 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