12/31   I'd like to see more Berkeley grads work at AMZN so I'm announcing this
        one more time.  Anyone here looking for a job?  AMZN is aggressively
        hiring SDE IIs and IIIs right now.  Pretty much all positions are up in
        Seattle though.  Send me your resume and I'll refer you -larryl
        \_ I thought they are expanding down in the Bay Area?
           \_ I believe they have announced moving a small search division
              there.  Don't count on too many positions though.
        \_ what are SDE's?
           \_ Software Development Engineer (as opposed to hardware, tech
              support)
        \_ What is a "SDE"?
           \_ Software Development Engineer?
        \_ http://www.hyperdictionary.com/computing/sde
           Software Development Environment
           \_ http://www.lsc.co.uk/otherinformation/glossary.html#s
              Shared Data Environment
        \_ Maybe no one wants to work with someone who is such a moron he
           uses stock symbols for company names.  Doesn't it hurt when
           someone asks you where you work and you choke on saying AMZN and
           cover them in spit and they beat the shit out of you?
              wierd. They seemed more like recent initiates into a religious
           \_ What world do you live in where anyone cares about this crap?!
           \_ I don't know about that. I have never met larryl. I did live for
              in Seattle for two and half years. The Amazon kids were a little
              weird. They seemed more like recent initiates into a religious
              cult than employees. Anybody else have this impression?
           \_ I thought using AMZN was okay.
                \_ Well AMZN we at least get. What about SDE ?
                   \_ I emailed larryl a tongue-in-cheek letter asking him
                      what amazon was doing with second order stochastic
                      differential equations, it was the only thing I could
                      think of when I saw SDE-II. First time I saw his post
                      I thought it was some sort of brokerage firm looking
                      for a math person to do voodoo forcasting on stocks.
                      If said person is really serious about looking for
                      candidates, he should post a complete description
                      written in standard english to the motd and to
                      the /csua/pub/jobs directory. I mean seriously, stop
                      wasting other people's time if you're just fucking around.
                      --williamc
                      \_ Isn't "wasting other people's time if you're just
                         fucking around" exactly what you were doing with
                         your "tongue-in-cheek letter"?
        \_ You fruits are all lame.  He's offering a referral to work at a
           stable, reputable company, even if you have to move to Seattle.
           I also had no problem with reading the terms "AMZN" and "SDE II".
           \_ So what is an SDE II? Why not say s/w engineer or s/w
              developer? "SDE II" is too fucking formal for the motd. What's
              the difference between an "SDE II" and an "SDE III" (or an
              "SDE I" for that matter)?
              \_ If you don't know what it stands for, just ask.  No need
                 to resort to profanity (too formal of a word for you?).
                 I thought it's nice gesture.  And to people who have
                \_ Well AMZN we at least get. What about SDE ?
                      --williamc
                 worked for a while, SDE, SQA are quite common terms.
                 Have you thought of the possibility that he was
                 trying to filter out people who have no prior experience?
                 \_ 9 years experience and never heard of SDE. You ever
                    hear of MTS?
                    \_ You know, it's okay to be ignorant.  No one's going
                       to hold it against you if you have to ask what a given
                       acronym means.  You can even do it politely without
                       profanity!
                       \_ Here's a good acronym: FOAD
                    \_ Member of Technical Staff