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12/18 So if it wasn't for your boy Dean spoiling the election, my man,
Ralph would have a much better chance in '04. Here's some background
on your guy. Read it and weep while you suffer through 4 more years.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/ac2/wp-dyn/A9661-2003Dec17?language=printer
\_ Ralph's a grumpy old man that should pass the reigns if he wants
the greens to do anything.
\_ Hi, Republican Troll. The Greens really don't understand the
meaning of the word coalition. The Republicans have their own
loonies, the Christian Right. They understand coalition. They
unite with their party and pick their battles, and guess what?
They're winning. They control the Republican party, they hold
the White House and much of Congress, they are gaining ground in
the courts and they control school boards across the nation -
enabling them to subtly indoctrinate the next generation.
The biggest problem with the left, since the very dawn of the
modern age, is its tendency towards internecine warfare and
self annihilation. Ideological purity is a fool's game.
The war is won not with revolutions but with gradual change.
\_ Why does it surprise you that at a liberal school like Berkeley
there might be a single Green posting on the motd? Grow up.
\_ "Read it and weep"? I thought it made him look pretty good.
\_ I love how the story starts out with the 9/11 warnings crap:
From above: http://csua.org/u/5b9
also: http://csua.org/u/5bj
\_ That's the most they can dig up? To most of those "examples", they
quote a reasonable explanation from the Dean camp. What a snore.
One thing that's true is Kerry does nothing now but attack Dean.
\_ Does this usually happen with all prez primaries? Or is the
anti-dean vitriol worse than usual? -newbie to primary process
\_ I'm not very old or anything, but I can't remember a primary
race ever being quite like this. There are a more candidates
who have or had a real chance. The Kerry/Dean animosity is
probably highest since they're both New England, and Kerry
thought he had that in the bag before Dean rose up. |
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| csua.org/u/5b9 -> www.cbsnews.com/stories/2003/12/17/eveningnews/printable589137.shtml This is a very, very important part of history and weve got to tell it right, said Thomas Kean. As you read the report, youre going to have a pretty clear idea what wasnt done and what should have been done, he said. Appointed by the Bush administration, Kean, a former Republican governor of New Jersey, is now pointing fingers inside the administration and laying blame. There are people that, if I was doing the job, would certainly not be in the position they were in at that time because they failed. To find out who failed and why, the commission has navigated a political landmine, threatening a subpoena to gain access to the presidents top-secret daily briefs. Those documents may shed light on one of the most controversial assertions of the Bush administration that there was never any thought given to the idea that terrorists might fly an airplane into a building. I dont think anybody could have predicted that they would try to use an airplane as a missile, a hijacked airplane as a missile, said national security adviser Condoleeza Rice on May 16, 2002. How is it possible we have a national security advisor coming out and saying we had no idea they could use planes as weapons when we had FBI records from 1991 stating that this is a possibility, said Kristen Breitweiser, one of four New Jersey widows who lobbied Congress and the president to appoint the commission. The widows want to know why various government agencies didnt connect the dots before Sept. |
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| www.washingtonpost.com/ac2/wp-dyn/A9661-2003Dec17?language=printer The difference is that I acknowledged that I did not believe the theory I was putting out. Deans remarks, his critics say, are in keeping with his history of making statements that are mean-spirited or misleading. He has distorted his past support for raising the retirement age for Social Security and slowing Medicares growth. He has falsely said he was the only Democratic presidential candidate talking about race before white audiences. And he made allegations - some during his years as governor - that turned out to be untrue. After saying at his last gubernatorial news conference that he was sealing his official records to avoid political embarrassment, Dean now says he was joking and is not sure what is in the files. One example cited by Kerrys campaign: Dean recently said, I never said Saddam was a danger to the United States. But in September 2002, Dean told CBSs Face the Nation: There is no question that Saddam Hussein is a threat to the United States. With polls suggesting Dean is pulling away from his rivals, they are stepping up their criticisms on several fronts, including foreign policy, government experience and credibility. Dean spokesman Jay Carson, asked about the challenges to his bosss veracity, said Wednesday: Thats all they do now: attack Howard Dean. Last week, after Dean denied providing a tax break as governor that benefited Enron Corp. Carson said Wednesday that Deans January anecdote wasnt misleading at all. The story illustrates the downside of mandatory parental notification, and is an example from the life experience of the governor. Some of Deans opponents in his gubernatorial campaigns say he was prone to misleading statements then. In a 1998 debate, Dean and GOP candidate Ruth Dwyer argued over new regulations for large farms in Vermont. Dwyer told of Bristol farmer Bob Hill, who struggled to build a barn for his 600 cows while complying with the states strict permit requirements. The next day, Dean told the Associated Press he had done a little research on that farmer. Hes in violation of the natural resource conservation service laws. Several Vermont legislators from both parties who served while Dean was governor said they rarely found cause to question his honesty and chalked up his controversial comments to misspeaking. He could be trusted and knew better than to lie to us, said Cheryl Rivers, a former Democratic state senator who sometimes clashed with Dean. Yes, he would shoot from the hip, but it was not deliberate or malicious. But lately, as he courts liberal Democrats nationwide, Dean has distorted portions of his record as governor, when he was generally considered a centrist. He has repeatedly denied siding with Republicans such as then-Speaker Newt Gingrich R-Ga. Vermont Abenaki Indian leaders said they were outraged last month to see Dean onstage at a Native American conference in Albuquerque. For more than a decade, they said, his administration vigorously opposed their quest for state and federal recognition, contending the Indians might make land claims and bring casinos to Vermont. Dean drew raucous applause from his New Mexico audience when he endorsed the benefits of tribal gambling establishments. Needless to say, to hear him say onstage in Albuquerque that he was in favor of gaming for federally recognized tribes came as a big shock to a lot of people in Vermont, said Jeff Benay, a Dean appointee who heads the Vermont Governors Advisory Council on Indian Affairs and who has advised Deans campaign. Carson, responding Wednesday to the Abenaki issue, said: It would be inappropriate for the state to recognize them before the federal government does. |