Berkeley CSUA MOTD:Entry 11483
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2018/07/22 [General] UID:1000 Activity:popular

2003/12/16-17 [Politics/Foreign/MiddleEast/Iraq] UID:11483 Activity:nil
12/16   Why the capture of Saddam, although making the world a better place,
        is ultimately a "diversion". -sfgate article on what liberals think
2018/07/22 [General] UID:1000 Activity:popular

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