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12/15   hey ilyas: http://www.chivalrybookshelf.com/titles/ringeck/ringeck.htm
        (tobler interprets the Ringeck Verses)
        \_ right. just in case you just finished Quicksilver and felt it
           wasn't nerdy enough.
           \_ this book is not supposed to be fiction.  It's a system of
              movements for the art of applied geometry.
              \_ Agrippa is better for that.
                 \_ Agrippa wasn't thinking of a longsword, he was thinking
                    of rapier.
                    \_ What about Silver?
                       \_ Well, he had a bit of a bias vs. scherma.
                 \_ http://jan.ucc.nau.edu/~wew/fencing/agrippa/63.jpg ?
                    \_ Agrippa was a mathematician.  Basically he came up
                       with a system of movements that let the scholar
                       form the hypotenuse with his arm and blade to the
                       triangle created by the opponents arm, blade, angle
                       and point.  Alot of the spanish style, the so called
                       "magic circle" is all appications of geometry of chords
                       tangents, etc, since they didn't have the silly
                       limitations of strip fencing. - pst
           \_ For the record I don't like Stephenson.  I find most of his
              books (after Snowcrash) long and boring.  Also the above poster
              is right, this isn't fiction, it's a martial art manual.
                -- ilyas
              books (after Snowcrash) long and boring. -- ilyas
        \_ Neat!  Thanks, motd Santa! -- ilyas
           \_ ya might also wanna ask him for a gorget.  Preferably steel
              I took a schlager in the throat the other week and even thru
        \_ Neat!  Thanks, motd Santa! -- ilyas
              a steel one it still hurt and stunned. - pst
           \_ Motd santa pls bring me:
              http://www.darkwoodarmory.com/closed.htm
           \_ If you like that, tell us about this:
              http://img.kb.dk/ha/manus/th290/kamp0205.jpg
              and
              http://img.kb.dk/ha/manus/th290/kamp0165.jpg
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www.chivalrybookshelf.com/titles/ringeck/ringeck.htm
Thus began the teaching of Master Johannes Liechtenauer, the premier master-at-arms of medieval Germany, whose martial art dominated German swordsmanship for over two centuries. In the late 14th century, Germany was a patchwork of warring principalities, bishoprics, mercantile leagues, and free-cities - all nominally united under the banner of the Holy Roman Empire. Besides full-scale wars of conquest, crusades and imperial succession, petty, private wars, were fought between every conceivable combination of princeling, town and bishop. Renegade robber knights, prayed upon travelers on the lonely roads through the dense, German forest. Yet, at the same time, roots of the Renaissance were already being lain. This was the dangerous, paradoxical world into which Johannes Liechtenauer was born. Liechtenauer spent his youth traveling through Central and Eastern Europe, studying with masters from locales as far-off as Krakow and Prague. Through these wanderings, he developed his own unique and deadly form of martial art, that fully integrated sword, spear, dagger and grappling, for use in and out of armour; Gathering a select circle of students around him, Liechtenauer transmitted his teachings into cryptic, mnemonic verses and swore his students to secrecy. These students, in turn, became masters-at-arms to the greatest noble-houses of the Empire. In the 15th century, Sigmund Ringeck, master-at-arms to Albrecht, Count Palatine of the Rhine and Duke of Bavaria, and one of the descendants of the Liechtenauer school, broke the secrecy, and sought to explain the mysterious verses. Working through the verses line-by-line, he added explanatory commentary on the tactical and mechanical principles of the system. Ringecks commentaries reveal a sophisticated system of fighting, based on natural, underlying bio-mechanics, and a fighting philosophy built around maintaining control of initiative. Christian Henry Tobler has rendered this key text into English for the first time, and provides photographic interpretation and commentary for each technique of this secret martial art. The result is a must for serious Western martial artists, students of medieval history, hoplologists, and medieval reenactors. First in a series of medieval fighting manuals translated and interpreted by todays eminent Western Martial Arts practitioners, the Chivalry Bookshelf is proud to present this most important and impressive introduction to the medieval fighting arts.
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Darkwood Armory - Rapiers - Closed Port Swept Hilt Item. Price. Guard Only. Guard, pommel and handle. Sword - practice rapier blade. Sword - bated rapier blade. Sword - sharp rapier blade. Closed Port Swept Hilt. My version of this hilt has the front port filled with a pierced plate, though that was not by any means always done. AVB Normans book pictures several of this type of hilt, mostly early 1600s but seen in portraits from much earlier. A slightly earlier version appears without the second loop guard and no knucklebow to connect it. This style would have featured the inner triple branch guard connecting to the root of the forward quillion, rather than to the non-existent knucklebow.