11/25   Anyone used the Sony Ericsson T616 phone yet?  I'm really tired of
        the Motorola-style flip phones...
        \_ While I don't really like motorola's phones, I do find flip phones
        \_ While I don't really like motorola's phones, i do find flip phones
           more comfortable to talk on, and find they give better audio quality
           more comfortable to talk on, and find they give better audio quality
        \_ The T616 suffers from horrible reception, at least much worse than
           old v60i. Fun to play with, though, if you have a strong signal.
           [format only because you had content]
        \_ I have a T616 and I like it more and more.  However, I don't use
           any of the fancy features at the moment -- camera, GPRS, ringtones,
           Java, bluetooth -- and in that respect it has exactly the same
           utility to me as all my past, less-featurefull, Ericsson phones. --tobin
           Some notes:
               - The phone is tiny!  fits in a shirt pocket, yet is comfortable
                 to use.  This is perhaps one of the greatest selling points.
                 Most competing phones are incredibly bulky by comparison.
               - The T616 will not work in Europe.  The T610 does.
               - The display is a bit difficult to read in direct sunlight.
               - AT&T wireless coverage has been excellent everywhere I've been
                 *except* in Berkeley, where coverage in buildings is basically
                 non-existant.  However, there is an antenna on Etcheverry hall,
                 so outdoor coverage on the campus is good.  Along interstates
                 it's almost always full bars.  Note however that TDMA coverage
                 (AT&T "Digital" as opposed to GSM) is vastly more widespread,
                 but is not supported by Ericsson phones (they typically cater
                 to the GSM market) but is [hopefully] going away, in favor of
                 GSM.
               - Voice quality has been excellent everywhere where service has
                 been available.  It seems to be an all-or-nothing thing.
               - The menus are deeper than need be.  It can take a lot of button
                 pushes to accomplish something.
               - It can run Java programs that you download! I haven't tried this
                 yet, but it sounds like it could make the phone the best thing since
                 the TI-85.
                 \_ Is this just a troll to piss off HP calculator people
                    or are you really dumb enough to like the TI-85?
                    There's a name for calculators that don't use rpn:
                    "communist turd counters."
               - A headset thingee is included, and works well.
               - The built-in web browser is highly standards compliant (someone
                 I met from Opera ran all sorts of browser tests on my phone and
                 apparently the browser surpasses IE most of the time).  However,
                 the whole web-browser-on-a-phone doesn't seem to have $8/month
                 worth of utility to me.
           for the person on the other end because them mic is closer to you
           for the person on the other end because the mic is closer to your
           mouth.