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| 2003/11/25-26 [Politics/Foreign/MiddleEast/Iraq, Politics/Foreign/MiddleEast/Israel] UID:11224 Activity:kinda low |
11/25 Farmer's house to be destroyed in a matter of hours.
Just remember you never really own property in this country.
If the government wants it, too bad.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1028759/posts
\_ what does it mean in the comments section when freepers say
"bump?" Is that like "Heil Bush?"
\_ if it means the same thing as on various other boards, then
it means to bump the thread back up to the top in the thread
index. it works because posts that show activity get moved up.
\_ Bzzt. As with so many freeper links, this does not contain enough
info to make an informed judgement. Does this building constitute
an asbestos hazard? Is this a living unit? What were Farmer
Avery's responses to the letters sent by the Supervisor? Does the
county intend to claim the land under eminent domain? Give us
more info and less sloganeering. --erikred
\_ Read the constitution. it's called immenient domain.
\_ eminent
\_ Not only do you not know how to spell, you don't know your
Constitution. The Fifth Amendment ends, "nor shall private
property be taken for public use, without just compensation."
That's a right for the people, not the government. In this
case, the property is not being taken, it is not being used
for the public, and the property that is being destroyed is
not being compensated for. The government contends this guy's
home was being used improperly and is destroying it. Unless
due process didn't occur, this is Constitutionally okay. Sucks
for him, but sometimes due process doesn't get nice results.
Further, saying "you never really own property in this country"
is fallacious. It's like saying "you never really own your own
body" because there are limits on abortion and the death penalty
exists. Or because you can be jailed. In this country,
property rights are far greater than in most.
\_ I think it is funny that the same yahoos that celebrate when
Iraqi or Palastinian homes are demolished get all up in arms
when it happens to one of them.
\_ Yeah, because inhabiting your own property because you're
tired is just as bad a crime as killing innocents for political
advantage.
\_ I didn't see in the article where Farmer Bob blew anyone up,
shot down any planes, set off any bombs, or sent his brainwashed
children off to a pizza parlor to kill himself and some kids.
\_ Neither did most of those people in Palestine either. They
just happened to live in the same village.
\_ It's a communist plot from America-hating democrats!
\_ Fascist, actually. |
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| www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1028759/posts Neighbor hood 11/25/3 Varmint Al Al Harral Posted on 11/25/2003 11:09:29 AM PST by Varmint Al Well, Free Republic cant help. The police are there and now the county is going to have to get a court order to cut his lock. Here is the police car, the police filling out some kind of papers. Whenever there are large flood losses and FEMA flood insurance takes a hit, they always try to get people to move by denying them flood insurance coverage. I can see that if the risk is high, but how can anyone make someone leave their property and destroy it if they are willing to live there without insurance? Post Reply Private Reply To 3 View Replies To: Sender This seems like more than just a flood issue. I refuse to believe that this mans house is being levelled simply because he may be located in a flood plain. No, there is more to this story, with all due respect to the poster. In a hearing, they introduced fabricated evidence and when caught their ALJ Judge John Rampton said NO, as I yes I had a fool for a client too, but cheapest one I knew at the moment asked for a dismissal. NOBODY tells them Bureau of Land Management what to do and they are above the law, who do you call on the government? The taking of this mans home is yet another example of this distorted Democracy big governmnt engages in. The IBLA, highest govt court in DC, after an appeal, ruled the govt DID NOT have a court order to destroy my operation. Post Reply Private Reply To 1 View Replies To: Varmint Al Something like this happened near my home in Pennsylvania, a few miles down the road. A family bought a plot of land that was zoned or deed-restricted for farming. A local conservation group took them to court and got a judgement against them and the county razed their house. Well these conservation ninnies or I should say Nazis didnt like it and found a judge to buy into it. Green Trust Bulldozes Familys Farmhouse 23 posted on 11/25/2003 12:12:25 PM PST by Mannaggia lAmerica Post Reply Private Reply To 1 View Replies To: Varmint Al As Ive said before, You dont own anything in this country if the government wants your property or your property stands in the way of progress. The real owners Any branch of government can take possession at any time. This has been a fact of life in the US almost since its inception, or at least since the 1790s. Post Reply Private Reply To 1 View Replies To: bert Spell check approved their and Pangalacticgargleblasters Bating average 50 28 posted on 11/25/2003 12:34:37 PM PST by bert Dont Panic! Post Reply Private Reply To 27 View Replies To: Varmint Al I dont think I ever heard about this. Post Reply Private Reply To 1 View Replies To: Republicus2001 it sure is - the county wants the land to build a new homeless shelter If theyre concerned enough about the homeless to raze other peoples property, why not just eliminate property taxes instead and leave it at that? Post Reply Private Reply To 19 View Replies To: Varmint Al Doesnt anyone think this might be a good idea? If its an unpermitted house in a flood plain, I like the fact that government enforces the zoning law equally. For those who dont think equal enforcement is a good idea, may I put a hog farm and tanning factory next to your house? Post Reply Private Reply To 1 View Replies To: Wheee The People For those who dont think equal enforcement is a good idea, may I put a hog farm and tanning factory next to your house? Bad example: he already had a house there and has had it for years. A better example would be: what if I decide that your own house lies on a seismic fault, and must be razed - and will be treated as it its pure anthrax at your expense unless you pay to have it tested. If the deed restrictions said no residential development, how is the group or county wrong for enforcing a written contract? The problem lies with whoever was bribed by the conservation group to grant the conservation easement on his land. I have been trying to answer the questions that people have on this thread. Preston Avery, the farmer, owns the property and the house which is/was a mobile home, but is on a foundation with built on awnings and a garage. Preston is not a crook and has tried to comply with all the rules. They told him that he had to put the trailer up on pilling and they gave him a week to do it. It would cost about $40K and take months to get a contractor to do that. As an aside, they would probably make him install an elevator so that disabled people in wheel chairs could also have access to the house if it were on pillings. |