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11/24   battlestar galactica is back
        http://www.scifi.com/battlestar/about/background/index.html
        \_ cyborg Cylons!?! WTF?! Boycott! Go buy the DVD box set
           instead - a much better investment in time.
        \_ I think it is good that Starbuck is going to be a girl.
           I think that character will play better as a female.
           That being said, and although i will certainly be tuning in,
           I don't really have much hope. The second main guy they talk
           about in that link is from the ST_TNG_ and _DS9_ and those
           shows both mostly sucked ass.  Also any time someone in SF
           talks about how it is really all about the characters, their
           show sucks.  (of course, it is a small sample size of shows
           that all suck.  I don't understand how two of the best shows
           \_ [added at the top because the rest of the replies are OT]
              SciFi has a real hit (Dune, Children of Dune) and miss (every-
              thing else) ratio with their original material.  BG could go
              either way.  As for ST:TNG and DS9, your opinion is noted and
              scoffed at, but basing your hopes for BG on the inclusion of
              a guy who did some "co-writing" and producing on the other
              shows makes no sense; the entire ST franchise is under the
              thumb of the domineering and autocratic Rick Berman.  BG
              will be the first time we get to see Moore with full creative
              license.  Let's see how badly he mangles the pilot and _then_
              pillory him.
              \_  Well, I can't think of anyone in the industry that I
                  despise like i despise Rick Berman, so I am willing to
                  put all the blame on him.  My fingers are now crossed.
                  \_ Right on.  Now, when it turns out to be a steaming
                     pile, I'll be glad to commiserate with you right here.
              \_ You liked children of dune?
                 \_ It was flawed, but yes, I liked it.
           \_ Troll/flamefest Below:
              ---------------------------------------------------------------
           \_ Anyone who uses the phrase "sucked ass" in a serious way
              can't be worth listening to.  I knew you were an idiot when
              you said Starbuck should be female but didn't truly understand
              until you were sucking ass.
              \_ Wow.  You managed to derail anything remotely like conversation
                 about the topic.  You get the troller-of-the-week cookie!
                 \_ I bow before the other motd masters of destruction.  I am
                    but a butterfly before their hammer.
              \_ Starbuck acted like a female anyway, might as well make him
                 one and give me something to look at.
              \_ STOP OVERWRITING OTHER PEOPLE'S POSTS
                 \_ bite me, I didn't.
                    \_ yes, you did. But apparently, you're too clueless
                       to notice that a file has changed since you opened
                       it in your editor.
                       \_ because I used 'diff' incorrectly?  bite me.
              \_ Wow.  You're astoundingly closed minded.  A swear word mixed
                 in with a sentence does not invalidate the thoughts or
                 intellect of the poster.  It might not necessarily demonstrate
                 good socialization or courtesy, but it has absolutely nothing
                 to do with intelligence.  Let me put it this way: Go away you
                 sanctimonious twit.  Have a nice day.
                 \_ Dear Moron, perhaps you failed basic reading comprehension,
                    or maybe you were simply born with a low IQ or other mental
                    defect so I shall explain to you v-e-r-y s-l-o-w-l-y.  The
                    op made 2 statements.  I responded to both.  I made it
                    clear that the "swear word" was not my primary concern but
                    was merely an indication of ordinary idiocy.  I presented
                    my reason for the belief in the next sentence.  In the
                    future I shall w-r-i-t-e m-u-c-h s-l-o-w-e-r for you.
                    Please die and have a nice day.
                    \_ cf, 'sanctimonius twit' etc.  Have a nice day.
                    \_ Apparently your definition of idiocy is different
                       from mine.   You're a christian republican sysadmin,
                       aren't you?
                       \_ You forgot "white, fat, racist, rich, old, uncool,
                          greasy, stupid, uneducated, jewish, southern hick"
                          in your ad hominen.
                       \_ Hey, stop insulting us christian republican
                          sysadmins (white, fat, or otherwise).
                          \_ Why not?  They are the most easily baited, and
                             they make up most of the motd population.
                             \_ left out again...  --black muslim green poet
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And multiple viewpoints, documentary-style footage and dazzling special effects give viewers a heightened sense of being immersed in the action, excitement and confusion. From the beginning, Eick knew that if he were going to succeed in his goal of reinventing Battlestar Galactica, he would need a collaborator who knew the genre inside out. As a boy, Moore watched the original Battlestar Galactica series religiously. As an adult, he worked for ten years on the Star Trek franchises Star Trek: The Next Generation and Star Trek: Deep Space Nine. He knew the rules of space opera very well and he also knew he wanted to break them. Science fiction on television has started to fall within certain well-defined parameters, said Moore. Even in features, the genre has become big and glossy and romantic. I was eager to write something that was more dramatic than the traditional space opera, a story with real characters, real human relationships, but in a science fiction setting. To achieve that goal, Moore decided to draw parallels with contemporary reality. Instead of creating a completely different, alien culture, I took the approach of , This is you and I and were on an aircraft carrier in space and then the world ends. As he contemplated that apocalyptic scenario, Moore found inspiration in recent history. One of the things that struck me when I went back at looked at the original pilot for Battlestar Galactica was how dark it was, said Moore. And I thought, you know, there are depths that we could really plumb with that. And remember, I was looking at this in a post-9/11 world, a world that had been at peace and that was going along quite well. And then suddenly, one morning I woke up and the World Trade Center had collapsed and people Id never heard of hated me and hated everything about my society and wanted to destroy it. Looking at it in that light, he continues, I thought that there was a truth there that we should go for. How do they balance security and freedom and how do the debates about that unfold? Moore admits there may be things that diehard fans of the original wont like about the miniseries. But hes also convinced that there are many things they will like, things that improve on the television show. I think, at its core, this is still Battlestar Galactica, he says. That said, I think your reaction to this show will depend considerably on how much or rather how you loved the original. If you thought it was perfect the way it was and you just cant imagine anyone else doing those roles, and the nostalgia of it weighs heavy on your heart, I dont know that youre going to be satisfied with this. We took the core of what Galactica was and tried to give it a deeper meaning, a greater sense of humanity, a greater relevance to our lives today. So I think if you look at the original with some fondness, and you kind of remember it as being fun at the time, but you look at it right now and go, Yeah, we could probably change some things, make some improvements along the way, then I think youll really enjoy this version of Battlestar Galactica . Ive heard some fans express their shock and horror at what were doing, adds director Michael Rymer . But when you probe a little deeper, past questions about the Cylons or casting, what you find is that what fans loved about the original were the themes, the psychology, the relationships the humanity of it. And I think those things are more strongly presented in the miniseries than in the original show. For Eick, the miniseries stands as a bridge between the old and the new, between fans of the original and SF fans that might not have been born when Battlestar Galactica first aired in 1978. As I said, this is an ambitious project were really trying to reinvent the genre of science fiction, he notes. That said, I think we have paid great respect to the mythos of the original Battlestar Galactica. I think fans of the original will appreciate that were using that mythos as a springboard into a new thing. At the same time, were reaching out to a new audience that may not have seen the original or who may not even watch science fiction. In a way, were like the Galactica itself: We may be carrying a lot of the old world with us, but we are definitely heading for a new one. Next Article THE FILMMAKERS ON REINVENTING A CLASSIC A CLASSIC RECAST CREATING THE LOOK AND FEEL OF BATTLESTAR GALACTICA THE VISUAL EFFECTS OF BATTLESTAR GALACTICA .