11/14   ausman, stop overwriting other people's posts, you bastard.
        \_ motdedit is not an excuse for just overwriting what people
           have written.  grow up and take some responsibility.
           \_ Why do programmers use CVS? If you are a CS person and you
              do not understand the need for version control, they I pity you.
           \_ What about re-writing motdedit to patch/merge the new file with
              an updated motd.public?  It would reduce lock-contention and
              would make the pseudonymous posters (who don't use the locks)
              happier.
        \_ Write your post in a separate editor.  Use motdedit.  Paste your
           your post in.  Save.  Haven't gotten a warning to overwrite
           someone else's changes in a long time.
           \_ Or not.  Motdedit isn't a requirement.  It's an option some
              choose not to  use.  Look, we've been down this path before and
              you can't force people to use motdedit.  Using motdedit doesn't
              provide the moral authority to overwrite other people's comments
              either.  I neither use motdedit not do I overwrite other's
              comments.  It is possible to do.  But when I see some arrogant
              self righteous motdedit using asshole overwrite stuff I feel
              no guilt smashing over their shit immediately no matter whose
              comments they rudely destroyed.
              \_ Whoever you are, you just overwrote _two_ other people's
                 comments, at least one of whom(me), who doesn't overwrite
                 other comments.
                 \_ Acutally, that probably me.  I had an ohno-second.  Sorry.
                    \_ the overwrite happened at the same time(2:48:40) as
                       the above post.  Both overwrites now restored.
              \_ If you cannot see the impossibility of resolving
                 simultaneous conflicting edits, you are a moron and
                 I am annoyed that you matriculated from Berkeley.
        \_ out of curiosity, shouldn't it be possible to make the motd file
           such that it can ONLY be modified by people using an access script,
           forcing the serialization of edits?
           \_ yes, with root level support and the like, but then you lose
              pseudonymity, which people seem to like.  If we improve motdedit
              to use patch/merge, then we reduce the window of opportunity for
              overwrites.
        \_ I'll think about it. I still think you should stop jumping the
           queue and expecting others to merge your changes. -ausman
           \_ I use JOVE.  It tells me when changes have been made to the
              doc since I started working on it.  I then copy whatever I've
              just written, exit without saving, open the motd again and
              paste.  If everyone did something similar, we wouldn't have
              this problem.
              \_ I use MOTDEDIT. It tells me when someone else is editing the
                 motd.  I then wait for that person to stop finish, then write
                 my post. If everyone did something similar, we wouldn't have
                 this problem.