11/12   What is America's shittiest city or metropolitan area? vote now!
        Bay Area in General: .......
        \_ ugly girls, lack of girls, overpriced housing, pay sucks relative
           to cost of living, gas expensive, car maintenance expensive,
           Chinese restaurants inferior to Los Angeles
           \_ Lack of girls?  Someone needs to get out of the 3rd floor of soda.
              \_ They're there, but they are ugly. On the plus side, they are
                 less picky than the princesses in LA.
                 \_ Yup, and they give it up a lot more often.
        Berkeley, CA: ...
        \_ you guys haven't seen shit then.
           \_ Let's see, 4 years in Berkeley and I have had:
                bank robbery: 1
                break in: 1 (stolen VCR, etc.)
                thefts: 4 (2 bikes plus 2 bike wheels, 1 leather jacket)
                car jack at gun point: 1 (ok, not me but my friend)
                con job: 1 (got conned for $50, ok, I was a dumb freshie
                         then. did catch the con man trying to con
                         another student several weeks later, and told
                         him to fuck off.)
                \_ brother of my friend got hit with a fucking iron pipe on
                   the head from behind, while he was walking home from Soda
                   along that dark little diagonal passageway with bushes all
                   around.  Managed to come to later, and crawl to the
                   hospital.  Yay Berkeley!
                \_ I've lived in Berkeley all my 23 years and the only crime I
                   was a 'victim' of was living with a screaming crazy person
                   for 3 months.  Are you guys just really unlucky?
                   \_ more likely just really naive easy targets
                      \_ If walking along dark little paths after dark is
                         indicative, then I'd have to say 'Yes'.
                \_ My friend was offered a pile of human feces on wax paper.
                   \_ I don't think stealing my stories works with cable modem.
                \_ lock both bike wheels to the bike/post, don't leave leather
                   jackets unattended in the library/cafe
                \_ what was the con?
                \_ first summer, broken into and tied up in bed with electric
                cords from alarm. Chased down in my own complex's court yard
                by Police who broke the fence into a secured apartment
                complex and  chased me into my own apartment for standing
                outside in my own courtyard.
        Anywhere in Utah: .
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        Oakland, CA: ..
        Washington, DC:
        San Francisco: ..
        \_ What are you crazy?  Oh right, motd people only like bland suburbs
           with spacious parking and plenty of franchise restaurants.
           \_ Are you wearing enough flair?
           \_ I work and socialize there.  It's a dump.  It was semi decent
              about 15 years ago but is shit today.  So yeah, SF gets a vote.
              Why do you assume I prefer bland?  I prefer not stepping around
              homeless people shitting on the side walks or seeing the
              aftermath of my friend getting a gun put in his face after they
              pistol whipped him and stole the few things he had on him.  So,
              yeah, did I remember the "fuck you!" part of this?  I think I
              didn't.  Here comes!  Fuck you!
               \_ How about Compton?  Surely SF can't be worse than Compton?
                  Even if you think they are both dangerous or have too
                  many homeless people/social problems, at least SF also has
                  many good points, good restaurants, culture, public
                  transportation, etc.
                  \_ I added my city.  Go add compton if you want.  I've never
                     been there.
              \_ Hey, how about fuck YOU?  All urban areas have problems.  Go
                 to the suburbs if you don't want to see them.  San Francisco
                 has lots of nice neighborhoods and tons of incredible culture
                 and residents.  If you just hang out in SOMA with the rest of
                 the clubbers, and downtown with the rest of the office drones,
                 yeah, you'll think its a dump.  Get a life, Mr. Bridge and
                 Tunnel, and try some of the other parts of the city.  You might
                 even learn something.  Fucker.
                 \_ I've lived in several big cities, and I think San Francisco
                    is below average.  I like the Bay Area, but not San
                    Francisco.  - yet another poster
                    \_ I love surface judgements.  When I used to live in
                       Oakland, people would talk mad shit about how horrible
                       it was, and yet most of them had never done more than
                       drive through it once or twice and maybe had lunch
                       downtown or been to a party or three.  They just listened
                       to other people's preconceived notions or whatever bs
                       the chronicle published.  Once you got to know it, it
                       was a really interesting place with lots of buried
                       little secrets.  And best of all, there weren't any
                       morons around because they were too busy listening to
                       people's stupid attitudes about the place.  Yeah, its
                       got big issues, but so does any place that isn't a bland
                       suburban nightmare.  I can also say that though I lived
                       in a supposedly "bad," working class neighborhood of
                       Oakland for four years, the ONLY place I was ever a
                       victim of crime was in Berkeley.  As for San Francisco,
                       once again, most of the places that "visitors" flock to
                       are for sucktards.  I live in Hayes Valley now, just
                       north of the Lower Haight, and I wouldn't want to live
                       anywhere else.
                       in a supposedly "bad," working class neighborhood for
                       four years, the ONLY place I was  ever a victim of
                       crime was in Berkeley.  As for San Francisco, once
                       again, most of the places that "visitors" flock to are
                       for sucktards.  I live in Hayes Valley and I wouldn't
                       want to live anywhere else.
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        Philadelphia: .
        San Bernardino, CA: .
        Wherever It Is You Fuckwits Live: .
        \_ you know where they live.  just put "california." see above.
           \_ I'm glad you tards are staying out of California.  Housing prices
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              are high enough as it is with you and your larvae.
              \_ the idiotic housing shortage isn't caused by overcrowding,
                 dumbass.  I'd say something about what the problem is, but
                 your genius governor would make me do 400 situps.
                 \_ Talk about missing the point.
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