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2003/11/2 [Politics/Foreign/MiddleEast/Iraq] UID:10908 Activity:moderate
11/2    What are liberals and conservatives thinking is the best approach in
        Iraq right now? If we get out, we admit defeat but save billions,
        but also leave Iraq w/ no security...
        \_ Hand over power to an Iraqi governing council, withdraw; when
           "resistance fighters" start attacking again (and this time it
           will be Iraq and not the US they're attacking), back Iraqi
           plea for International Peacekeepers, re-enter country as such,
           with full UN/World support.  A more moral plan would include the
           liberation of Kurdistan, but hey, one step at a time.
        \_ Fence.  Nukes.  Pave.  Hand over massive smoldering parking lot
           to Iranians as gesture of goodwill.  Make nasty faces at
           Syrians and Palestinians.  -John
           \_ Nah, just send them all to Switzerland.
                \_ No room;  the Yugoslavs and Tamils (don't ask) are all
                   here already
                   \_ nuke it first then.
        \_ "Admit defeat"? To whom? Bush claims he is planning to hand Iraq
           back over to the Iraqis in any case. How would doing this
           quickly mean admitting defeat?
           \_ Because it is obvious we'd be retreating.  The country is not
              ready to run itself yet and everyone on the planet except you
              knows that.
              \_ 38 percent of Americans say it is time to get out of Iraq.
                 I am all by myself, 38% of Americans? Wow, wish I had
                 known that earlier. Let me guess: you are the same moron
                 that said "everyone knows Saddam Hussein has WMD" right?
                 \_ Cool, let's do math wars!  62 percent of Americans do not
                    say it is time to get out of Iraq.  38 percent huh?  That's
                    remarkably close to the percent of BC voters.  Odd, that?
                    It couldn't possibly be that these same people who are
                    opposed to our current policy are simply opposed to
                    *anything* this administration does, could it?  As far as
                    the _appointed by Americans_ council running Iraq, the
                    council members themselves say they're not ready so it
                    would definitely look like we're fleeing and you'd hear
                    the phrase "paper tiger" a lot just like when Carter was
                    in office.  You *do* remember Carter being in office?  That
                    nasty little hostage crisis bit?  Us doing nothing?
        \_ Lock down entire cities, search every building, check point at
           every block.  Open it up section by section as it's cleaned out.
           And give the Kurds their own land for God's sake.  They're
           treated almost as badly as the Jews, the Irish, or Tibetans
           have been.
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