11/1 http://tinyurl.com/taph
"US Considering Recaling Units of Old Iraq Army"
Like I said, it's a huge mistake to disband the Iraqi army.
Our brilliant leaders are finally realizing it. Disbanding the
army unnecessarily creates many enemies from those who can cause
the most problems.
\_ That's very doubtful. It creates problems by leaving a huge pool
of unemployed people, though I suspect that very few of those are
are actually being recruited by terrorists in the way you seem to
be implying.
\_ You don't need many. Just 10% will give you a 50000 strong
guerilla army.
\_ But in context, even 1% is an obscenely unrealistic number.
\_ why? is it that hard to believe that some iraqis
don't think we should be occupying their country?
\_ I'm sure many more than that don't want us there.
However, that dislike is not going to 100% translate
into the desire to drive a truck bomb into the Red Cross
HQ. If there was a 50000 or even 5000 strong guerilla
army running around there'd be a lot more killing going
on. Nothing that's happened so far requires more than
100-200 people around the entire country.
\_ There are 25-35 attacks A DAY on our troops in Iraq.
\_ Yes. Everytime a soldier stubs his toe it's
counted as an attack. Do you really want a
Vietnam style body count?
\_ You're being ridiculous and in the process
\_ I think most of the attacks are non-suicidal,
belittling the real attacks that are taking
place.
\_ There are plenty of real attacks. However,
I don't think every toe stubbing counts.
\_ Most of the attacks are non-suicidal,
just road side bombs that can be triggered,
rocket propelled grenades and a few mortars,
precisely the things people with military
training would be good at, and most are targetted
directly at the occupational forces. The
rest are targetted at "collaborators".
\_ Few militaries are trained to set road side bombs,
rest are targetted at "collaborators".
and if they were ex-army and using army weapons
such as mortars they weren't trained very well
because their success rate with standard military
weapons is hovering just above the "got lucky"
level. These are random fucks, not ex-army.
\_ If there were only 100-200 people, they would've
been wiped out by now from attrition, or we
can just capture one or two and get them to
lead us to the rest. The reason we have not
been able to do that shows that the "100-200"
is just the tip of a huge iceberg from which
acitve ones can be drawn from.
\_ Maybe. Maybe not. How many of these attackers
have been caught? Zero according to US media.
\_ WTF why haven't you been appointed Supreme Allied Commander
a long time ago!!!
next bath house 'date'.
\_ It is almost impossible to be more arrogant than Bush
\_ This is basic common sense. Arrogance makes our leaders out
of touch with reality until it splatters all over their face.
\_ I nominate you for Secretary of Defense and five
star general!!!
\_ I don't know about five star general, but yea, I
will take Secretary of Defense, or better yet,
Commander in Chief.
\_ Those are positions that must be earned. You're more
arrogant than anyone in the administration. We'd all
be seriously fucked for years to come if some ninny
like you had any say in anything more than which of
last week's dirty underwear you'll be wearing on your
next bath house 'date'.
\_ It is almost impossible to be more arrogant than
Bush
\_ So do you think Bush is more arrogant or more
eeevveeeillll!!!!?
\_ Yea, we all should learn from you and prostrate
in front of our supreme leaders Donald and Bush
and say everything they did were wonderful.
I think you will do well as a court jester
or eunuch.
\_ *laugh* Nice attempt but no dice. *I* was not
the topic here. Idiot head above saying he
could do better was. I merely observe facts.
\_ The media is biaaaaasssed against the right!
\_ Yeah and if they had left it in place and the people revolted
because this very same army was directly responsible for murdering
tens of thousands of Iraqis then you'd be here screaming how the
arrogant American leadership didn't listen to you when you said to
disband the evil marauders. It must be great to always be right,
at least on the motd, eh? [restored]
\_ Wrong, I said it was a mistake right after they announced
they are disbanding the Iraqi army wholesale. The view that
that there is a murderous Iraqi army distinct and seperate
from the Iraqi people who were its victims is a naive view.
The Iraqi army is a huge conscript army of 500000 which Saddam
himself doesn't fully trust. That means almost everyone (all
the Sunnis at least) should have a family member, relative, good
friend in the army.
\_ WTF does have a family member have to do with anything?!?
How exactly do you figure that the average post-Saddam citizen
is going to be thrilled to see the Iraqi army stomping around
again? |