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10/30   I'm not sure when this was published, but this compares
        current events with Athens trying to conquer Sicily:
        http://www.csua.org/u/4ui - danh
        \_ I still contend that oil slicks keep seals young and supple.
        \_ why not just assume that people who want to listen to NPR already
           do?
           \_ look, even people who listen to NPR / read harpers don't do it
              ALL the time.  One of the great things about the motd is that
              there are a bunch of opiniated half-bright individuals out there
              going through lots of media so i don't have to.  Now, they
              don't always get it right.  But i am happy to have the freepers
              post when they find something they think is particularly
              interesting, as i am glad to have had this posted. -phuqm
        \_ i thought the article was interestiing, and i admit
           the tone of harper'ss magazine can be a lilttle obnoxious iis
        \_ Re: the quote:  isn't folly the result of incompentence and
           perversity the result of decadence?  (not always but often) -phuqm
        \_ [s/Sparta/Sicily/ completed, you're welcome]
        \_ Nice article, thanks.
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I will not wait on events, while dangers gather, I assumed that he was striking at a target of rhetorical convenience. The war on terrorism was not going as well as planned Osama bin Laden still at large, Afghanistan not yet transformed into a Connecticut suburb, bombs exploding every seven or eight days on a bus in Israel, and who better than the tyrant of Baghdad to stand surrogate for all the worlds evildoers? The man was undoubtedly a villain, a brutal psychopath who murdered children and poisoned village wells, stored biological weapons in hospitals, subjected his enemies to unspeakable torture, and imprisoned his friends in the cages of perpetual fear. Who would not be glad to learn that he had retired from politics or died in a traffic accident? Bush chose to express his disapproval in what he called the language of right and wrong, who was I to deny him his demagogues right to issue harebrained threats? When asked by worried friends and acquaintances whether the President was borrowing his geopolitical theory from the diaries of Joseph Stalin and Adolf Hitler, I assured them that the President didnt have the patience to read more than two or three pages of a Tom Clancy novel. By the second week in August I understood that my assumptions were poorly placed. The spectacle of the American government making preparations for an invasion of Iraq suggested that maybe the Bush Administration was, in fact, stupid enough to call down air strikes on the last four paragraphs of one of the Pentagons apocalyptic briefing papers. The President was hopping boldly out of golf carts in Texas and Maine to tell the traveling White House press corps that regime change was coming soon to downtown Baghdad; Competing television networks scheduled different time slots for the Pentagons forthcoming fireworks display before and after Novembers congressional election, in early January when the weather around Baghdad improved, next April because the Air Force needed six months to replenish its inventory of precision bombs. Competing newspaper columnists advanced competing adjectives to characterize the extreme danger presented to the entire civilized world, but none of them offered evidence proving that Saddam possessed weapons likely to harm anybody who didnt happen to be living in Iraq; A government that must hold Senate hearings to discover whether it has a reason to go to war is a government that doesnt know the meaning of war. The inanity of the circumstance accounted for the mock-heroic tone of President Bushs golf-cart communiqus I call upon all nations to do everything they can to stop these terrorist killers. Now watch this drive as well as for the sublime complacence of the innumerable spokesmen testifying to the certainties of Americas virtue, truth, justice, and power. Consistent with the latter set of assumptions, two of the statements presented to Senator Bidens committee invite lengthy quotation because they speak to the character of a government in the state of decadence. Thus, the heroics of Lieutenant General Thomas McInerney retired, former assistant vice chief of staff of the United States Air Force: Thank you for this special opportunity to discuss a war of liberation to remove Saddams regime from Iraq. Suffice it to say we must preempt threats such as those posed by Saddam Hussein. All the Iraqi military forces will be told through the opposition forces in our information operations campaign that they have two choices: either help us change regime leadership and build the democracy, or be destroyed. In addition, commanders and men in weapons of mass destruction forces will be told that they will be tried as war criminals if they use their weapons against coalition forces or other nations. I can understand the general being sensitive to the question of who is, and who is not, a war criminal. Other points in the generals testimony didnt seem as nicely judged. How does it happen that the most massive precision air campaign in history leaves but a relatively small footprint in the region? Who prevents Ariel Sharon from upgrading with nuclear weapons the Israeli program of preemptive assassination, and, in the relatively sizable footprint of an oil price marked up to $50 or $70 a barrel, what happens to the economies of London, Paris, and New York? 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