10/29   Hosting question...
        So what are some recomendations for very cheap and reliable
        hosting options? I want DB support (MySQL, or postgres), JSP/servlet
        stuff, and other general scripting things like PErl, PHP. I'd also
        like to get a couple domains, and dont have any access to servers
        to do name serving. thanks.
        \_ when you find this magical utopian provider that will cheaply and
           reliably host your entire network, your db, java engine and every
           thing else and do it on their own hardware, please let the rest of
           us know.  i've got 40 racks of servers i'd like to move to this
           wonderland.
           \_ well "cheap" and "reliable" are obviously relative, and there
              is obviously an inverse correlation between the two. There
              are many places that will do most of what asked about and
              I was just soliciting recommendations. ... but thanks for
              keeping the motd useless.
              \_ my pleasure.  next time ask an answerable question and you
                 might get an answer you can use.
        \_ how about 10 of us pitch in for a nice Linux box and co-locate it.
           We'll run it like an extension of CSUA, or a colony of it. A bunch
           of us can vote what should be there and what shouldn't, and some
           of us can manage portions of it like postgres, apache, sendmail,
           spamassassin, etc etc. It'll be more efficient than CSUA since
           there are less people and no politburo, and it'll be better
           because there are less users.
           \_ Why would anyone want that?  I come here for the people.  Most of
              us already have jobs and high speed near-the-backbone net access
              if we wanted to grab an IP and dump a box outside the corp. fw
              for personal use.