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2003/10/24 [Recreation/Dating, Politics/Foreign/Asia/China] UID:10764 Activity:low
10/23   Soong May-Ling (aka Madame Chiang Kai Shek) passed away at age
        106 in Long Island, NY.  A generation has passed into history.
        A short biography:
        http://www.wellesley.edu/anniversary/chiang.html
        \_ Is that a bad thing?
           \_ it's history.
        \_ for those who bitching about women right, one should really
           look at her and how she played the role of the First
           lady.  It's not until the 1970's when the First Lady in the
           Western world slowly caught up with what she is already done
           in the 1930's.
           \_ If you're trying to mention highly-achieved Chinese women in the
              past, how about the King Mother Chi Hsi (sp?) of the Qing
                                              \_ Ci Xi.  learn pinying
                                                 \_ wo hen ta ma de pinying.
                                                    \_ pinyin, no g
                                                       \_ wo hen ta ma de in vs
                                                          ing.  no difference
                                                          to my ear.
                                                 \_ Sorry, I'm not a Mandarin
                                                    speaker.  Just doing my
                                                    best.
                        say this 3 times fast:  4 & 10 is 14    _/
                                                4 & 40 is 44
                        \_ Try this: 4 is 4. 10 is 10. 14 is 14. 40 is 40.
                                     44 is 44.
                           \_ How about the one that says "When Xi Xi died, she
                              was 44."  Or a very long one that started with
                              "There's a poet Shih in a rock chamber.  He likes
                              eating lion.  ......"
              Dynasty, and even Empress Wu in the Tang Dynasty a thousand years
              ago?
           \_ First Ladies should not have *any* power, control, or influence.
              Certainly not in a democracy where we elect our leaders, we don't
              marry them.  And you've got a funny idea of women's rights where
              a woman has to marry the right guy to achieve power or wealth.
              That sounds very 1950's to me.
              \_ First Lady is essentially a cabinet position.  She
                 is appointed by the same person who appoints everyone
                 else in the cabinet.  If anything, the First Lady
                 position is more democracy friendly than the other
                 cabinet positions because you know what you're getting
                 when you vote.  We all knew during the election that
                 if GW won Laura Bush would be First Lady, but I think if
                 people had known ahead of time who would be appointed
                 attrorney general it could have thrown the election
                 the other way.
        \_ Wow, I didn't know Soong Ching-ling became a communists after Dr.
           Sun died.
           \_ You can even argue that Dr. Sun was a half of a communist
              at first place.
              \_ Is that why Deng Xiao-Ping erected a statue of Dr. Sun
                 somewhere in China (I saw a picture of that in some book) even
                 though he's of the Nationalist Party?
                 \_ Sun Yat-Sen was the Father of Modern (Non-Imperial)
                    China.  That he was a borderline socialist before the
                    Nationalist v. Communist fracas broke out is neither
                    here nor there.
                 \_ huh.. huh...  he said statue...
                    \_ statue erected statue erected statue erected.
                       are you horny now?
                       \_ reaching the condoms
        \_ The Soong sisters: One loved power (May-Ling marrying CKS), one
           loved money (Ai-ling marrying industrialist HH Kung), and one
           loved China (Ching-ling marrying Sun Yat-Sen).  It's a cliche
           but there you go.
           \_ Maybe they just loved their husbands.
           \_ What's the full name of HH Kung?  Thanks.
        \_ The West had Queen Elizabeth. How about Cleopatra?
           \_ Yeah the whole snake bite thing at the end went well for her.
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