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2003/10/14 [Politics/Foreign/Asia/China] UID:10620 Activity:nil
10/13   Cool.  Here's Europe forgetting lessons of the very recent past:
        http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2003/10/14/weu14.xml&sSheet=/news/2003/10/14/ixworld.html
        The best parts are near the end when they talk about arms transfers.
        \_ Which lessons are those? That China is a good trading partner?
           Amazing how antagonizing your allies makes them look for other
           partners, isn't it? The damage Bush has done to American diplomacy
           will take decades to undo.
           \_ The ones about peace with honor.  Or in this case, cash without
              honor.  But you knew that.  China is a great trading partner if
              you've got high tech weaponry to sell.  You seem angry.
              \_ Honor?
              \_ What are you trying to say? That it is dishonorable to
                 trade with the Chinese? That China is a threat to Europe's
                 security? What???
                 \_ It's there.  No.  Yes.  Just that.
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