10/11   Somewhat related to the free trade discussion below...Current farm
        subsidy program hurts free trade and may be making us into a nation of
        fat people through excess food production:
        http://csua.org/u/4ov
        \_ we become fat by excess food consumption, not production
           \_ True, but excess food production is an incentive to food
              companies to increase the caloric values of their products.
              Try reading the article.
           \_ I'm a low-carber and eat like a pig. I've lost lots of weight
              eating right. Atkins (and others) were onto something.
                            \_ "if he's so smart, how come he's dead?"
                               \_ because everyone dies, duh.
              \_ Becoming a meth addict "works" also.  does that mean that
                 your local friendly meth dealer is "onto something?"
                 \_ This is not a logical argument.  Keep trying, son.
                    \_ the atkins diet and meth addiction are both
                       spectacularly unhealthy lifestyles that eventually
                       lead to death by heart disease.  they both are also
                       pretty much garaunteed to cause weight-loss.
                       you can be a patronizing fuck about it (which would
                       be the typical response of the typical atkins nut)
                       and it will change nothing.  you can officaially
                       claim victory on the motd, and i'll just live a
                       long healthy life while eating a balanced diet and
                       excersising regularly while you die in front of
                       your terminal in your 40's
                       \_ I'm not on any diet and I think the Atkins people are
                          nuts but there is *no* proof that their diet will
                          lead to early death by heart disease or anything
                          else.
                       \_ Better, but still not totally logical...and emotional
                          now, too.  Work it, kid, work it.
                          \_ FOAD
                          \_ instead of being a stupid dick, why not actually
                             respond to the point? -someone else
                             \_ Uhm, because trolling the moron is so much
                                more fun.