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10/6 http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/7/33217.html http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/7/32038.html is this a good prediction, or a self fulfilling prophecy. Are computer jobs going to go the same way as weaving/sewing/clothing jobs? \_ No. I read an interesting take on it recently (Economist?) which said that manufacturing jobs were going due to efficiency as much as corporate migration, and that with high efficiency, time-to- market and responsiveness to local needs outweighed the minor resulting cost gains from moving manufacturing offshore. I see the same happening with IT, regardless of what people tell me about Indian call center workers with perfect Texan accents. I've seen too many offshore moves by development and support teams (don't even start on business IT consulting) to have any faith that it'll make a really serious impact in the long run. On the other hand, there's historically been a trend for 'simpler' work (witness mining, steel, shipbuilding, electronics) to move from 'core' to 'periphery' countries, without really affecting prosperity in the developed world. -John \_ Why would they not? There was an article that mentioned silicon valley will recover by 2010, but the trend to offshore jobs will continue. There will always be cutting-edge jobs here, but the easier jobs will go overseas. One thing they haven't taken into account is the transfer of intellectual property to these countries, and the new competition that will result. \_ Dontcha just love globalization? \_ Not until software is truly a commodity and bug free. You'll see a swing back from foreign countries for core work that must be done right because quite frankly they aren't skilled enough to do that overseas. \_ Not to mention the communcation issues (language, culture and time difference) which make requirements/specifications difficult to iron out. \_ Yep. I've seen a three year, $50 million project from India produce nothing but bills. And oh yeah, some folks got fired. That was the only good to come from it. \_ I ve seen a dilbert about this recently. |
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| www.theregister.co.uk/content/7/33217.html -> www.theregister.co.uk/2003/10/05/intel_ceo_admits_jobs_arent/ The Register Business Intel CEO admits: jobs arent coming back to US By Andrew Orlowski in San Francisco Published Sunday 5th October 2003 20:12GMT Theyre calling it the jobless recovery - but its a misleading phrase. New jobs are being created in the tech sector, only CEOs are making sure theyre in China and India, not at home in the United States. Craig Barrett admits to the New York Times today that while Intel has maintained a steady head count in the US, it has hired a thousand new software engineers in India and China. To be competitive, we have to move up the skill chain overseas, he said. The Times cites an estimate that a million jobs have been moved offshore since March 2001. Gartner predicts one in ten tech jobs will be moved offshore by the end of next year 2004 and half of them will be skilled engineering positions. The trend is nothing new: but for the first time its affecting the technocrat middle class, who in the United States and increasingly the UK, too must bear the costs of further education. The benefits, and inevitability of globalization were preached while first manufacturing then service jobs went off shore. |
| www.theregister.co.uk/content/7/32038.html -> www.theregister.co.uk/2003/07/29/us_tech_industry_staff_decimated/ Only today, Techweb reports that employees at IBM are starting to organise in response to plans from their employer to move thousands of jobs abroad. Gartners concern lies with the tech employers, its clients, rather than the pink slips to be. As such it wants to ensure that firms do nothing to stain their reputation when they ship jobs overseas. Says the firm: CIOs need to communicate clearly, honestly and respectfully about the transition plan, and about the options available to affected employees. The way in which enterprises deal with employees during the offshore transition will be lasting testament to the perception of leadership and the reputation of the company as an employer. Now for some Gartner advice for the CIO Identify competencies, roles, people and knowledge that will be retained - To prevent organizational paralysis, CIOs must define the future role and shape of their IS organizations as certain day-to-day activities move overseas. Many enterprises retain critical functions such as application design, application integration, client-facing process management, enterprise architecture, information management and high-investment competency centers. In addition, they develop new competencies in service management, vendor relationship management, process management and business integration. Create a meaningful transition plan - Provide clear timelines and milestones to help people prepare for the change that offshore outsourcing brings. At each milestone, certain segments of work or applications will complete their offshore transfer, and the affected people will be terminated or redeployed. Companies that have a lasting commitment to their people will generally spend time arranging redeployment of their affected employees. Outline employees options - Define the options available for affected employees: reskilling, redeployment, termination or outplacement. Executives must hold themselves accountable for communicating clearly, quickly and meaningfully. Gartner has published a research note United States Offshore Outsourcing: Structural Changes, Big Impact, for sale on its Web site. |