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9/30 Guardian is reporting that several of the journalists have named Karl
Rove as the source of the agent leak...and *doooooown* goes the ship.
\_ urlP
\_ link:csua.org/u/4ks
Unfortunately this is a real audio link, sorry I can't do better
as its a developing story. The report is about 1:20 in.
Also I should add, none of them have gone *public* with this
information yet...
\_ Is it because all the journalists Rove called are Republican
buddies like Novak
\_ Revealing your source is a big no-no for a journalist.
\_ Definitely. However, if a subpeona is issued in the
course of a criminal investigation the reporter would
be obligated to name the source, or face contempt of
court. We're a long way off from that, but you never
know.
\_ Journalists have First Amendment protection. Look
at the Pentagon Papers for precedent.
\_ they still get thrown in jail for not
revealing sources. -tom
\_ not usually. the exceptions get in the news.
\_ as in most things it's more complicated than
that. law is a balancing of rights and the
court has a track record of not weighing
journalist privilege as heavily as other types
of first amdmt privilege. not making a
judgment here, just pointing it out. --aaron
\_ I'm suspicious. This thread has been
remarkably well-behaved, on-topic, and troll
free. WHO IS THIS IMPOSTER, AND WHERE IS THE
REAL MOTD?
\_ With yermom. Happy?
\_ Because us conservatives take criminal
activity very seriously no matter who did
it. We won't defend Rove if he turns out
to be a criminal. It's that whole thing
about having principles. Should I make the
obvious comparison or let it be?
\_ We liberals applaud your adoption of
our principled stance.
\_ So as good liberals and not as (D)
party hacks, you were in favor of
removing Clinton from office due to
his crimes? We have a very different
idea of what principles are.
\_ Many people (including enough
Senators) didn't think Clinton's
offences rose to the level of
necessitating removal. Time
shall tell what comes of this.
--scotsman
\_ Yea... he was debarred in
Arkansas and debarred by
the USSC. Lying under oath
before the US Congress.
Interesting. Accused of
rape by at least two women,
and of philadering by
at least 1/2 dozen more.
\_ Paula Jones is angry
with her lawyers and
has said publicly she
believes they
represented the Repub
interests that funded
them at the expense
of her own. --aaron
\_ says nothing about
Clinton's crimes.
\_ Clinton was not debarred.
And I hate to break it
to you, BUT CLINTON IS
NOT THE PRESIDENT ANYMORE!
\_ Debarred from Arkansas
resigned from
USSC before he was
debarred.
http://csua.org/u/4l1
What now?
\_ Disbarred, for
chrissake.
debar
v 1: bar temporarily; from school, office, etc. [syn: {suspend}]
2: prevent the occurrence of; prevent from happening; "Let's
avoid a confrontation"; "head off a confrontation"; "avert
a strike" [syn: {obviate}, {deflect}, {avert}, {head off},
{stave off}, {fend off}, {avoid}, {ward off}]
3: prevent from entering; keep out; "He was barred from
membership in the club" [syn: {bar}, {exclude}]
[also: {debarring}, {debarred}]
\_ CEASE! NO FACTS!
\_ Thi
s p
ost
is
nar
row
http://www.newsmax.com/archives/articles/2001/11/9/181815.shtml_
Jeeze you Clinton haters are pathetic, you can't even get the
basic facts right. Five year suspension is NOT disbarrment.
\_ Or maybe a different idea of "high
crimes"
\_ Yes, leftists have no trouble
selling out our country to get
a few votes until some day we
won't need to bother with all
that pesky democracy and choices
because we'll have the liberal
elite making all the decisions.
after all, when you're the
smartest woman in the world, you
don't have need for democracy.
\_ What crimes?
\_ Don't bait me.
\_ Apparently my Lvl 5 Troll Summon
spell worked. Must have been the
+3 Staff of the Magi.
\_ He's busy with the Falun Gong Republican
Jew Asian woman fetishists. And it's
'impostor'. -John the Troll King
\_ CROM! |
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| csua.org/u/4l1 -> www.freerepublic.com/focus/fr/567498/posts Nearly a year after leaving office, Clinton is still hounded by his sex scandal with Lewinsky and the statements he made about that relationship while defending himself in the Paula Jones sexual harassment lawsuit. Now, Clinton faces possible disbarment from the highest court in the land. He was forced to surrender his law license and accept disbarment from Arkansas courts in January as part of a deal brokered through the Independent Counsel investigating the Jones-Lewinsky case. The Supreme Court decided to seek Clinton's disbarment from the high court on Oct. "On January 19, 2001, Bill Clinton became the first sitting US president to surrender his law license and acknowledge lying under oath and obstruction of justice in an unprecedented 5-year suspension," according to the Southeastern Legal Foundation (SLF). The SLF filed the first formal disbarment complaint against Clinton with the Arkansas Supreme Court Committee in 1999. Phil Kent, SLF president, said the Supreme Court routinely handles disbarments and Clinton is simply one name among many who face possible disbarment from the high court Friday. "His name was among 60 or 70 names of lawyers from the 50 states who had been suspended or disbarred," he said. Kent believes the former president is being treated as though he was any other attorney guilty of lying under oath and obstruction of justice. Calls to President Clinton's office in New York City were not returned Thursday, however, Clinton's lawyers released a statement addressing the case. Clinton's attorneys agree that the president was trying to save face when he lied to a federal grand jury while being questioned about his relationship with Monica Lewinsky. Clinton "took actions motivated in part by a desire to protect himself and others from embarrassment," the lawyers wrote. Kent believes Clinton's conduct does warrant his disbarment from the court and that his presidential legacy would likely be tainted by his actions. He would be the second president in United States history to be disbarred from the practice of law." Richard Nixon was stripped of his license by the state of New York after resigning from office, Kent said. Young said the burden of proof is on Clinton and his attorneys to persuade the court that he does not deserve to be disbarred from the Supreme Court. View Replies To: TLBSHOW Now, Clinton faces possible disbarment from the highest court in the land. He was forced to surrender his law license and accept disbarment from Arkansas courts in January as part of a deal brokered through the Independent Counsel investigating the Jones-Lewinsky case. Ok, but, what I want to know is when is this scum bag going to jail? View Replies To: TLBSHOW WASHINGTON (AP) -- Former President Clinton asked to resign from the Supreme Court bar Friday, rather than fight suspension or disbarment related to the Paula Jones sexual harassment investigation. The high court gave Clinton until Friday to say why he should not be permanently barred from appearing before the high court as a lawyer. Clinton lawyer David Kendall, in a letter to the court clerk, linked Clinton's request to the loss of his Arkansas law license. Independent Counsel Robert Ray agreed not to prosecute Clinton after he left office. The agreement also satisfied the legal effort by the Arkansas Supreme Court Committee on Professional Conduct to disbar Clinton for giving misleading testimony in the Paula Jones sexual harassment case. "In order to avoid the burden of litigation for all parties, to achieve an expeditious and definitive resolution, and in acknowledgment that his actions merited censure, former President Clinton agreed to the suspension and fine," Kendall wrote Friday. The high court could act on Clinton's request as soon as Tuesday. Supreme Court disbarment typically follows disbarment in lower courts, and is considered final. In a few cases, lawyers who have successfully regained their law licenses in lower courts have successfully won reinstatement at the Supreme Court. Likewise, Clinton could reapply if he regains his law license, in Arkansas or elsewhere, and keeps it blemish-free for three years. Membership in the Supreme Court bar is largely ceremonial, but is regarded as an honor among lawyers. Membership requires a sponsor who is already a member, and who will vouch for the candidate's qualifications. Clinton was admitted to the Supreme Court bar in 1977, when he was Arkansas attorney general. Like most lawyers admitted to the high court bar, Clinton has never argued a case before it. |