9/20    They Were White and They Were Slaves: The Untold History of the
        Enslavement of Whites in Early America
        http://csua.org/u/4em
        \_ hi freak, the author is one of those tin foil hat types, and
           not the good kind.  I tend to almost immediately cast into
           the wastebasket any author who uses the phrase
           "The Jewish question".
           http://tinyurl.com/o4j5 - danh
           \_ and even more great stuff: link:tinyurl.com/o4kk - danh
           \_ sloppy dan.  The author didn't use that phrase, the reviewer did.
              and your other link is just a list of other books written by the
              guy.  so what?  Anyway, are you trying to say that there were no
              debtor indentured servants/slaves in america?  go look up how and
              why the state of georgia was formed.  why be so conservative,
              dan?  what if some or even all of what this guy is saying is
              true?  have you done counter-research to show any of it to be
              false or you just "know"?
                \_ google for "michael hoffman" and "jewjitsu" - danh
        \_"The Scientist and the Gas Chambers In the mid 1990s Germar Rudolf
          was a researcher at the Max Planck Institute and a doctoral
          candidate in chemistry at the University of Stuttgart.
          His life changed radically, however, when a defense attorney
          hired him to furnish expert testimony and forensic samples
          from "homicidal gas chambers" at Auschwitz-Birkenau concentration
          camp. When Rudolf reported that according to his rigorous
          chemical analyses, no one had been gassed in those "chambers," ".
          Maybe you can get together with freerepublic guy and
          throw-all-the-palestinians-into-Jordan guy and form a boy
          band.
                \_ Why should I rely on the ramblings of a nutcase?
                   Plus I think forcibly marching over the ocean entire
                   populations of Africans to America probably resulted
                   in a lot more harm as a whole to african americans
                   then indentured irish potato farmers.  Before you blow
                   a gasket I don't support reperations, in my little
                   Berkeley bubble and on campus the subject doesn't come up.
                   I don't think it's a subject that gets a lot of
                   discussion in the bay area but maybe I don't listen
                   to KSFO enough. - danh
                   \_ danh, stop using vi to edit the motd.  you overwrote my
                      post below in posting your material above.
                      \_ sign your fucking posts. --me-user
              \_ lol.  There are so many _reliable_ sources discussing the
                 cruelty and inhumanity of indentured servitude that we do not
                 _need_ to rely on the rantings of one crackpot with an
                 anti-reparations agenda.  Just because a broken (analog)
                 clock is right twice a day, we need not assume that it is
                 correct in any other way.  So, yes, indentured servitude did
                 happen and did affect thousands of whites in Colonial and
                 Victorian America.  Let them file their own claim to
                 reparations from the UK.  This in no way "makes right" the
                 West African slave trade or the subsequent harm it caused to
                 African Americans.
                 \_ This has nothing to do with reparations.  We were talking
                    about whether or not what the guy's book said happened
                    really did or not.  I'm glad to see you agree with the
                    author because it's true and you'd look silly to disagree
                    on this point.  Some tangent about reparations for blacks
                    has nothing to do with anything.  It is perfectly ok to
                    talk about bad thing X happening to people X(1) without
                    diminishing bad thing Y done to people Y(1).  It isn't even
                    necessary to mention Y or Y(1).  Different topic.
                        \_ Just a dumb question, why should I be held
                           accountable financially for what my ancestors may
                           or may not have done 200 years ago?  -John
                           \_ how about you are held accountable for any
                              wealth you inherited that was created by
                              the actions your ancestors may or may not have
                              done 200 years ago.
                                \_ Erm, I'm not.  Nobody is.  -John
                   \_ What hogwash. If you want to assert that there was such
                      a thing as indentured servitude, point us to an
                      encyclopedia.  No one disputes this.  What is being
                      disputed is the authenticity of the source as anything
                      but a white-power propagandist.  Hell, if I write a
                      book in which I assert on the one hand that the freezing
                      point of water is zero degrees celsius and that the Earth
                      is hollow and populated with the armies of the Gnomes of
                      Zurich on the other, you're still free (and damn near
                      obliged) to point out that I'm a kook.
                      \_ That's silly!  Everyone knows the Gnomes of Zurich
                         live with John, under the mountain.