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2003/9/14 [Science/GlobalWarming] UID:10188 Activity:nil 71%like:10184
9/13    Any idea why my post regarding to Iran its its nuclear program being
        deleted by MOTD Censor?
        http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/3106488.stm
        I love this.  There is no incentive for Iran to cooperate
        regardless, as even if nothing was found, it would get invaded
        anyway.
        \_ Marg Bar Amrika, jew lover.  -John
        \_ Did you post in English?
        \_ The problem is they're building (or trying to) nuclear weapons.
           Why does an oil rich nation with minimal energy needs develop
           a high tech nuclear power industry for civilian use?  So they're
           in a catch-22.  They either come clean in which case they'll be
           forced to give up their weapons program or get invaded, or they
           don't come clean and get invaded and then give up the weapons
           program.  The last option is they build their nukes, destroy
           Israel who then launches the rumored 300-500 nukes they might
           have and wipe out a billion Arabs in response.  There's a reason
           the 3rd division hasn't come home.  It doesn't take an Iranian
           rocket scientist to figure it out.  (heh, that part was funny,
           laugh!)  As far as why were you censored?  Some people will delete
           anything on the motd that isn't nerdy enough for them.  World
           affairs is on the not-nerdy-enough list unless it has something to
           do with MP3 rulings in other countries or linux.
           \_ The problem is the iraq war has destroyed our ability to use
              war as a way to get countries to back down.  We have shown that
              dismantaling your weapon progrmas just makes you unable to
              defend yourself when you get attacked, while, as in the case
              with North Korea, having a strong weapons program gives you
              some bargining power.  Not to mention Iran knows full well that
              the United States doesn't have the military power right now
              to keep Iraq under semi-control AND threaten Iran.
              \_ Yea, Iran has like 5 times the population and land area
                 of Iraq, and their mullahs are all crazy unlike the very
                 moderate Iraq.  The land is also more rugged, lots of
                 mountains.  Besides they were the descendants of Darius
                 the Great, who was known as the Rod of God by the
                 Israelites for destroying Israel's enemies, and who was
                 very nice to the ancient Israelites.  Talk about being
                 ungrateful.
                 \_ Ungrateful?
                 \_ Huh huh..  He said 'rod.'
           \_ Jews and Arabs destroy each other with nukes.  Sounds like
              an excellent solution to the world's problems.  Didn't know
              Iranians are arabs.
              \_ hey i don't want radioactive gas in my car
              \_ They're not but who do you think they're going to nuke in
                 response to an Iranian first strike?  Argentina?  Nuking
                 the middle east will make current issues look easy.
                 \_ Yea, but he said 1 billion.  Arabs << 1 billion.
                    \_ So nitpicky.  After 300+ nukes land the world will be
                       lucky if only 1 billion die.  We're talking the end of
                       the world and you're concerned with demographics.
              \_ Iranians are persians.  Ancient scourge of western
                 civilization, dating back to the greeks.
                 \_ Jews, ancient troublemakers for western civilization?
                    \_ Genius, without Jews there wouldn't be a western
                       civilization.  I know!, let's push them all into the
                       sea.  Solidarity with our Muslim brothers!  All Praise
                       Allah!
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Russia has urged Iran to co-operate with a demand from the UNs nuclear agency to prove that it is not secretly developing atomic weapons. Iranian delegates walked out of a meeting of the International Atomic Energy Agency IAEA on Friday after a resolution was adopted giving Iran until 31 October to disclose all its nuclear activities. It is in Irans interest to clear these issues and thus confirm the peaceful nature of its nuclear programmes, Russian Deputy Foreign Minister Sergei Kislyak said. Russia is building Irans first nuclear power reactor at the port of Bushehr. Correspondents say Moscow has come under intense pressure from the US to drop the project because of fears that Tehran may use spent fuel from the plant to develop nuclear weapons. For its part, Washington has warned that Irans failure to work with the IAEA programme will constitute proof that it is pursuing a secret weapons programme. Mr Kisylak told the Russian Interfax news agency that Iran should not see the IAEA deadline as an ultimatum. It is a serious and respectful appeal by the agency for Iran to co-operate with the IAEA with a view to lifting all remaining questions, and do so without delay, he said. But the IAEA decision provoked a furious reaction from the Iranian Government. Irans ambassador to the IAEA, Ali Akbar Salehi, said the resolution showed that the US intended to invade Iran as it did Iraq and said they would begin a deep review of their relations with the nuclear watchdog. It is no secret that the current US administration, or at least its influential circle, entertains the idea of invasion of yet another territory, as they aim to re-engineer and re-shape the entire Middle East region. Clandestine activities Fridays resolution does not outline consequences of Iranian non-compliance, but leaves open the possibility of UN Security Council involvement. A spokesman for the US state department said: If Iran fails to take those steps by the deadline, that would constitute further evidence of its ongoing efforts to conceal its clandestine activities. Unless Iran immediately reverses course, the IAEA would be obliged to report Irans non-compliance to the UN Security Council, Adam Ereli said. IAEA Director General Mohamed ElBaradei said the agency would adopt a very vigorous approach to complete our work and we will make sure we get all the information we need. Iran has some serious decisions to take and time is running out, says the BBCs Tehran correspondent Jim Muir. It can suspend co-operation with the IAEA and adopt a stance similar to North Koreas - as some hardliners advocate. Or it can open up fully to the inspectors, to prove it is not building nuclear weapons, our correspondent says. Weapons fears The United States has accused Iran of covertly developing nuclear weapons under the guise of a nuclear energy programme. But Iran says it is only seeking to produce low-grade uranium fuel to meet its energy needs. The 35-nation governing board of the IAEA met all week, examining a report by IAEA inspectors, which says traces of weapons-grade uranium were found at an Iranian nuclear plant. The IAEA will decide the next step if it finds Iran has not co-operated when it meets again in November.