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2003/9/14-15 [Politics/Foreign/Asia/China] UID:10187 Activity:kinda low
9/13    Volkswagon sold more cars in China than in Germany
        http://www.nytimes.com/2003/09/12/business/worldbusiness/12cars.html
        \_ old news.  China already passed Germany as 3rd largest auto
           market in the world.  Mind you, that when that stat was taken,
           China has not open up market for auto-finance yet.  I am a
           Chinese, and I am deeply concerned with the way this is going.
           Most of China's city is not equipped for millions of cars, not
           to mention environment impact.
           \_ China has always been deeply concerned about the environment.
              \_ Yeah that's why they're building the 3 gorges river dam and
                 have been destroying their own rice paddies to the north of
                 Beijing for 20+ years with unsound farming methods.  The real
                 concern is we're down wind.  If they put enough shit in the
                 air from cars and heavy industry, it's going to blow right
                 over the pacific and settle in the pacific northwest and
                 parts of northern CA.  (The part of CA where Berkeley is for
                 those light on geography skills).
                 \_ hmm, ever heard of the Hoover dam?
                 \_ hopefully some smart guy in the gwbush admin has
                    realized this and is cooking up some great free
                    market scheme to deal with this problem, but
                    i really doubt it
                    \_ Um.  GWBush admin.... saving CA... yeah, right.  They'll
                       probably encourage China to drop emissions controls.
                     \_ I think they'll tell China about how they can
                        fix the environment by emitting deplted uranium.
                \_ Building?  It's completed.  Humans have been building dams
                   since 4000BC.  Last time I checked the Colorado is still
                   dammed.  Maybe you prefer that those Chinese provinces
                   (several hundred million people) continue to burn coal
                   instead?
                   \_ It's not fully operational.  They're still flooding out
                      the upriver areas, dislocating 10 million people and
                      wiping out big chunk of their own history.  And then
                      when the fault line they built it on goes, a few hundred
                      gazillion tons of water is going to wash out everything
                      down river to the ocean wiping out another few hundred
                      million people, but hey, as long as they don't burn coal
                      it's ok, right?  If you knew *anything* about this
                      project you wouldn't be so flip about it like it's yet
                      another random dam.  It isn't and you'd know that if
                      you knew anything, but you don't.  I notice you're also
                      completely ignoreant of the wide spread devastation
                      they're inflicting on their own food basket in the north.
                      \_ You are the one who mentioned "the real concern is
                         we're down wind".  Well, I can see how burning coal
                         would cause problem down wind, but not Yangtze
                         flooding.  In any case, now every two years,
                         millions of people get dislocated WITHOUT damming
                         due to flooding of the Yangtze.
                         \_ Maybe, but our environmentalism is more important
                            than Chinese flood dislocation.  They've been
                            flooded for thousands of years, and they should
                            be used to it by now.
                         \_ Their coal burning isn't an issue.  A few hundred
                            million cars and the heavy industry required to
                            make, maintain, and replace them is.  The 3 gorges
                            project is one example of how the environment is
                            not a concern there in any way, shape, or form.
                            The fact that they're destroying their own food
                            producing areas in the north is more than just bad
                            farm science, it's sheer insanity.  I wonder what
                            the next Five Year Plan will be.
           \_ You are a Chinese, but are you from China?
                \_ what differences does it make? -- heart in the motherland
                   \_ The person mentioned that he is "a Chinese".  What
                      differences does that make? -- heart for the humankind
        \_ Does VW manufacture cars in China now?
           \_not "now."  VW has been in China for almost a decade, if not
             more.
             \_  Go to Shanghai, the joint venture between VW and the local
                 manufacturer (forget their name), have the largets market
                 share in China currently.  I think their main $$$ maker is
                 the Santana.
        \_ Good thing China is in Kyoto - oh wait...
           \_ look at who is talking... the biggest pollutor in the damn
                world.
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