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2003/9/11-12 [Politics/Foreign/MiddleEast/Israel] UID:10152 Activity:high
9/11    http://salon.com/politics/wire/2003/09/11/dean_israel/index.html
        Dean criticized for being too "evenhanded" about Israel.
        \_ While his views may be the same as Clinton and Bush Sr.'s,
           he didn't have the intelligence to not stick his foot in his mouth
        \_ evenhanded is a code word for "tell the Israelis to stop defending
           themselves and go back to '67 borders".  Do you feel any different
           knowing what the phrase means?
           \_ You may have a point, but I have never, ever heard of
              "evenhanded" being used as a code word.  I could just as easily
              say, for example, that "affirmative action is a code-word for
              the coloreds overrunning the country" or something stupid like
              that.
              \_ you could say anything you want but that wouldn't make it so.
                 in this case, it is so.
           \_ What is wrong with asking Isreal to return a little land
              to the people they took it all from in return for peace? No
              one is asking Isreal to stop defending themselves....
              Oh I get it, I have just been trolled. Nevermind.
              \_ You weren't trolled. You *are* a troll and an historically
                 ignorant one at that.  No cookie.
              \_ Wow.  Well, for starters because it won't grant peace....
                 \_ I forgot... by continuing conquer Palestinian, treat
                    the Arabs within Israel as less-than-second-class citizen
                    Israel will achieve eternal peace.
                    \_ Nice emotional knee-jerk logic there.  Try picking
                       up a decent history book and, you know, reading it.
                       \_ Don't try to bring history, facts, or logic into a
                          discussion about Israel and Palestine.  You'll just
                          be accused of being racist for not supporting the
                          "Palestinian People", a ficticious people created
                          in the 50's.
                          \_ Yes, I see that now.  And here I am trying to
                             be reasonable with the ESL Anti-US Conspiracy
                             Theory Guy.  I loves de MOTD!
                          \_ Fictitious people? Yes they don't exist. They are
                             subhumans who have no rights.
                             \_ Uhm, I don't think that's what the PP was
                                saying.  I *think* he was making a statement
                                about the label being artificial and perhaps
                                an oversimplification.  *shrug*  Maybe he'll
                                speak up and clarify....
        \_ "``It is unacceptable for the U.S. to be `evenhanded' on these
           fundamental issues,'' the letter said." Love it.
           \_ Of course it is.  Even if "evenhanded" meant what you'd like it
              to mean, it would be unacceptable to support an enemy over an
              ally at any time for any reason.
              \_ Enemy? That's not US policy. Why don't you explain how
                 "settlements" (as if the area wasn't already settled) are a
                 just thing and why removing them is so unthinkable.
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