9/11 http://salon.com/politics/wire/2003/09/11/dean_israel/index.html
Dean criticized for being too "evenhanded" about Israel.
\_ While his views may be the same as Clinton and Bush Sr.'s,
he didn't have the intelligence to not stick his foot in his mouth
\_ evenhanded is a code word for "tell the Israelis to stop defending
themselves and go back to '67 borders". Do you feel any different
knowing what the phrase means?
\_ You may have a point, but I have never, ever heard of
"evenhanded" being used as a code word. I could just as easily
say, for example, that "affirmative action is a code-word for
the coloreds overrunning the country" or something stupid like
that.
\_ you could say anything you want but that wouldn't make it so.
in this case, it is so.
\_ What is wrong with asking Isreal to return a little land
to the people they took it all from in return for peace? No
one is asking Isreal to stop defending themselves....
Oh I get it, I have just been trolled. Nevermind.
\_ You weren't trolled. You *are* a troll and an historically
ignorant one at that. No cookie.
\_ Wow. Well, for starters because it won't grant peace....
\_ I forgot... by continuing conquer Palestinian, treat
the Arabs within Israel as less-than-second-class citizen
Israel will achieve eternal peace.
\_ Nice emotional knee-jerk logic there. Try picking
up a decent history book and, you know, reading it.
\_ Don't try to bring history, facts, or logic into a
discussion about Israel and Palestine. You'll just
be accused of being racist for not supporting the
"Palestinian People", a ficticious people created
in the 50's.
\_ Yes, I see that now. And here I am trying to
be reasonable with the ESL Anti-US Conspiracy
Theory Guy. I loves de MOTD!
\_ Fictitious people? Yes they don't exist. They are
subhumans who have no rights.
\_ Uhm, I don't think that's what the PP was
saying. I *think* he was making a statement
about the label being artificial and perhaps
an oversimplification. *shrug* Maybe he'll
speak up and clarify....
\_ "``It is unacceptable for the U.S. to be `evenhanded' on these
fundamental issues,'' the letter said." Love it.
\_ Of course it is. Even if "evenhanded" meant what you'd like it
to mean, it would be unacceptable to support an enemy over an
ally at any time for any reason.
\_ Enemy? That's not US policy. Why don't you explain how
"settlements" (as if the area wasn't already settled) are a
just thing and why removing them is so unthinkable. |