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2003/9/4 [Politics/Domestic/RepublicanMedia] UID:10064 Activity:nil
9/3     Rather than resorting to personal attacks maybe you should articulate
        why Coulter's and O'reilly political beliefs are wrong.   Attack the
        ideas not the people.
        \_ how about the same for Franken.  His thesis, apart from all the
           partisan wrangling is very simple.  He points out some very specific
           examples of certain people lying.  And from that, O'Reilly, and
           indeed the FNC can't help themselves from lobbing a pointless lawsuit
           filled with nothing but ad hominem against him.  Attack the ideas...
           --scotsman
        \- i think a lot of people are claiming those two are assholes.
           i.e. they are quite upfront about attacking the individuals.
           in some cases, the idea-person distinction is blurry ... i dont
           think it is useful to distinguish between say DAvid Duke, the
           racist, and David Duke, the minor politician with racist ideas.
                                                             --psb
                \_ Nice logic, so Oreilly and Coulter are equivalent to
                   to Duke (who BTW was for most of his career a Dem).
                   I think you might want to reconsider who you
                   consider fanatical - usually the left exhibits more
                   restraint before invoking the race card.
                   \- i'm making two points: 1. most people are consciously
                      attacking the people and not the ideas. 2. sometimes
                      this is not unreasonable or it is relevant. i think
                      the sarcastic "nice logic" applies to your positing
                      the "equivalence". usually the right doesnt accuse
                      me of being a leftist. and to be accused of being
                      a fanatical lefty ... well is that an attack on the
                      man or the idea? i think "fanatical" applied to the
                      person. so if i were to at this point call you a
                      hypocrite, i suppose i'd be attacking the man too.
                                                            --psb
                        \_ I'm not really interested in tautilogical
                           persiflage.  Perhaps we'd agree the quality
                           of criticism reflects depth of thought.  I don't
                           have much more to say.
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