Berkeley CSUA MOTD:2013:June:13 Thursday
Berkeley CSUA MOTD
2013/6/13-7/2 [Uncategorized] UID:54692 Activity:nil
6/13    If an illegal alien digs a tunnel and crosses the US border (but does
        not surface) and gives birth, is the birth considered to be in
        US soil?
        \_ I'm no laywer and I have no idea.  Some thoughts:
           1. Like you said, the baby would be technically born *in* US soil,
              not *on* US soil.
           2. However, I'm guessing that "jus soli" doesn't actually
              distinguish between "in" and "on", which is only an artifact of
              expressing the concept in English.
           3. How many feet down into the soil is US jurisdiction applicable?
              If it's a legitimate tunnel or subway station or basement of a
              building, sure.  But what about the tunnel here?  (This would
              affect whether jus soli applies.)
2013/6/13-8/13 [Politics/Foreign/Asia/China, Politics/Foreign/MiddleEast] UID:54693 Activity:nil
6/13    NSA NSA NSA!!!
        \_ I am shocked, *SHOCKED* that the NSA spies on foreign and US
           citizens and foreign governments. This Snowden guy must have
           been born yesterday to think he is revealing anything of import.
           \_ Most people seem to have been surprised by this.
              \_ Most people are idiots, but in general the attitude of
                 the general public seems to be indifference.
                    "It is clear that revelations about NSA surveillance
                     programs have damaged Obama's standing with the public"
Berkeley CSUA MOTD:2013:June:13 Thursday