2/16    "Iraqi: I'm proud my WMD lies led to war in Iraq"
        http://www.csua.org/u/sl0 (news.yahoo.com)
        \_ Duh.  the best thing that could ever happen to a country is
           the US declaring war on it.  cf: japan, germany, and now iraq.
           the US winning a war with it.  cf: japan, germany, and now iraq.

2/16    Time to restart this tired old discussion again. Who here would non-
        anonymously join a CSUA web forum, were we to auth it against CSUA LDAP
        and CalNet? Just trying to gauge alumni interest - and answer questions
        (to the best of my knowledge*), should you have any, about the current
        undergrad CS/CSUA for those that may be less in-touch. --toulouse
        * because I dropped out, but still live in Berkeley and keep in touch
        \_ technically you're still an alum.  alums are defined as anyone who
           went to a school.  (It gives the college a much wider net to cast
           for donations).
        \_ webforums aren't anon. :-(
           \_ Online anonymous communities have a low TTC, or trend towards
              one. IMO the ultimate result of "online" and "anonymous" is
              4chan. I'm defining "online" to mean 'in the web browser' btw
              --toulouse
              \_ there's a reason society has anonymous "we tip" hotlines
                 \_ Yes.  What does that have to do with a CSUA forum?  -tom
              \_ 4chanism can be eliminated by the k5 method.  All posts
                 are default denied and only posts that are voted good go thru
                 yes, this does mean you have to put time into developing the
                 content.  But this is the only way.
                 \_ Or...you know, forget about anonymity and build a community.
                    \_ LOL, it's MR. GOP Talking Points on the MOTD
                    \_ Or you could just not be lazy and build a community
                       based on content, not one based on NAMEDROPPING.
                    \_ The K5 system works, is proven, and will continue to
                       solve the problem of content, without confusing the prob
                       with anonymity, free speech, etc.  As a software guy
                       I like the idea of a Proper Solution to a Bug, not
                       some Blanket Marketing Hype solution. "zomg buy a WAF"
                       \_ But I want EZ Solutions 2 Hard Problemz! --GOP sodan
                          \_ Drill, baby, drill!
        \_ I"ll follow you on twitter, brotha.
        \_ Curious, do you go to every Cal Bears sporting game? Or devoutly
           run FreeBSD?
           \_ I was barely aware of the superbowl. My FreeBSD computer just died
              so I'm down to running just Ubuntu, Arch Linux, OS X, and Windows.
              --toulouse
              \_ Why are you staying around Berkeley?  Are you going to go back
                 to school?
        \_ There's no reason for a CSUA forum to be anonymous; anonymity is,
           in fact, the opposite of what the CSUA should be striving for.  It
           should be about connections between people, both at the undergrad
           level and with alumni.  I would join such a forum, and participate
           if the discussions are interesting.  -tom
           should be about connections between people, primarily at the
           undergrad level and secondarily with alumni.  I would join such a
           forum, and participate if the discussions are interesting.  -tom
           \_ Oh, is IS&T hiring?
              \_ I don't know, I don't work for them.  -tom
           \_ tolouse, you and tom can just exchange emails, no need for an
              amazon aws to host a webforum if it's just you two.
        \_ I would participate, at least somewhat. -ausman