12/8    http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/lanow/2010/01/cyclist-sentenced.html
        Car driver gets 5 years for assualting bicylists with car.
        \_ How many years do cyclists get when they run red lights?  I almost
           hit one last week when a cyclist ran a red light in front of me
           while I was about to start moving on my green light in Fremont.
           \_ How many years do motorists get when they run red lights? I
              almost got hit by one last week when a motorist ran a red light
              in front of me while I was about to start moving on my green
              light. (true, btw, not just a tongue-in-cheek copy of the pp)
              \_ True, but most people would (correctly) assume that it's
                 the driver's fault if you did get hit.
           \_ How many years do car drivers get for speeding? As far as I
              can tell, every car driver breaks the law. And speeding kills
              far more people than cyclists running red lights. The real
              difference here is that a cyclist running a red endangers
              himself, car drivers endanger everyone. Don't get me wrong
              though, I think both cyclists and car drivers should obey
              the law. But the penalty for running a red light or speeding
              should be much less than for deliberately assaulting someone
              with a deadly weapon and causing great bodily harm.
              \_ But the problem is that when a speeding driver hits
                 someone/something, people naturally assume that
                 it's the speeding driver's fault; whereas when a driver hits
                 a red-light-running cyclists, people naturally assume that
                 it's the driver's fault given the current politics unless the
                 driver can prove that the cyclist ran the red light which is
                 hard to do unless there is a witness or a camera at the
                 intersection.  -- PP
                 \_ Man, what city do you live in? Here in San Francisco car
                    drivers who hit cyclists are almost never even cited, even
                    when there are multiple witnesses to them being at fault.
                    http://sf.streetsblog.org for many examples.
                    \_ Fremont.  -- PP
                    \_ I've been hit on my bicycle by cars 3 times and all 3
                       times it was the drivers fault.  All three times they
                       didn't even bother to get out of the car.  The last
                       one hit me from behind, launching me over the car in
                       front.  The woman driving, yelled "your fault", turned
                       up her stereo and drove off.  We've created a society
                       where people are too afraid to be concerned.
                       \_ I'm Spike Bike.  I hate cars.
                       \_ Too afraid? It sounds like too selfish to me.
                          Did you get a license plate any of those times?
                          Witnesses?

12/8    Looks like httpd is not working.  I can't access my home page.
        \_ Yeah broken for me, too.
           \_ Emailed toulouse and he fixed it, thanks toulouse. -ausman

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