12/26 Mail is being retired, but will mail still be forwarded if we have
a .forward? Also, _why_ is mail being retired?
\_ one more yreason i only hire stanford grads from now on
\_ Like you have any real hiring decision power.
\_ don't recall seeing a discussion on this. it would be nice if mail
service remains.
\_ How can we contact root or the Politburo if the mail service is
retired?
\_ Twitter
\_ s/read-only/forward-only/ - and it's being done because of the lack
of will to maintain mail on our servers or something
\_ This was decided by the previous Politburo iirc. Same VP, but
different pretty much everyone else. Since it wasn't really
announced, and Politburo has gone into hibernation for the winter,
they'll figure out what they want to do with mail later. I take issue
with the fact that the previous politburo brought this up and decided
on this within a single Politburo session, avoiding an open
they'll figure out what they want to do with mail later. I take
issue with the fact that the previous politburo brought this up and
decided on this within a single Politburo session, avoiding an open
discussion on the matter (at least, looping in root, instead of just
Politburo, if not looping in csua@csua.berkeley.edu). Ah, well.
Anyway, if you think your opinion should be heard, you know where to
e-mail. --toulouse
\_ Good for you. Cloud mail is the future. Sysadm is not
about doing what has been done, but what needs to be done.
It is also about ignoring whining old farts so that you
can jump on the wagon. Any plans to shut down http://csua.com
machines completely? Do you guys plan to use a HTML page
creator for the main site?
\_ There is teaching value in running a mail server. Some of the
students may end up running one of those clouds some day.
I would not be opposed to running soda.csua as a virtual
machine, however. BTW, all user files are owned by 'nobody' at
the moment.
\_ please keep csua physical and mail running. csua shouldn't
become a lab of the bleeding edge. that's for a project
funded with $$$. woundn't mind it becomes a museum of
legacy stuff like motd, wall, and unix though
\_ the constraint is the nettaps, they are repeated costs
and the dept is seeing the csua more and more as
"extraneous"
\_ Virtually (heh) all our machines have been virtual for some
time now. Also, the owning issues was some combination of
LDAP and NFS fucking up. Back to the issue of
virtualization, we basically have precious little space in
the server room, and some failing machines. Yes, this means
that one beefy computer is shouldering pretty much all of the
burden of the CSUA, albeit in such a way that if we can ever
manage to procure another server (it was ~$4k iirc, nothing
to sneeze at) capable of running whatever VMWare's baremetal
thing is called now, we can migrate machines over (and if we
can get the fancy stuff, use VMotion). Not sure where I'm
going with this message so I'll stop here. --toulouse
\ So the following is a lie?
Welcome to Soda Mark VIII, a 4-way Xeon 2.5GHz
\_ Well, it does have 4 cores dedicated to it, each
at 2.5GHz >:) --steven
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