9/2     California will survive its crackup:
        http://tinyurl.com/qfzdpn
        \_ not if we can help it.
        \_ I like the comparison with Italy.  Maybe someday we can have
          dozens of political parties fighting!  yay chaos!!
          \_ Do you think Italian people have a lower quality of life than
             Californians?  -tom
             \_ Italian italians or immigrants?
                \_ Italians in Italy.   -tom
                  \_ Italian Italians or non-Italian immigrants in Italy?
             \_ Which Italians and which Californians? Overall, I'd say
                I prefer California to Italy for my particular situation.
                \_ have you traveleed?
                   \_ Yes. I am always glad to be back in CA when I return
                      even though I love to travel. Have you?
             \_ I have never left CA and I don't see a damn reason why I
                should leave it or travel! CA 4 LYFE!!!!!!

9/2     San Francisco:gay people :: Antioch:child molestors
        \_ Must be the water or the air.
                \_ by law, sex offendors need to live far away from schools,
                   antioch is a great place for that
        SF:Childish immature people :: Everywhere else: grownups
        \_ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z6HFuH9rx_o

9/2     http://graphjam.com/2009/09/02/song-chart-memes-rock-band
        Replace sister with "women in general." I can't believe how
        true this is.

9/2     "Freed reporters say they were dragged into NKorea - Yahoo! News:"
        http://www.csua.org/u/oyx

9/2     github super rocks, has anyone had problems with it?

9/2     Has anyone else here read Bethke's Headcrash?  Just wondering why
        nobody seems to know if it, when it really should be up there with
        neuromancer and snowcrash.  Thx.

9/2     Any opinions on what a developer at a small (10-person) startup
        company should get in the way of stock options?  (As a percent
        of the company, of course).  What are the general numbers?
        Any opinions?  -- First time startup employee
        \_ http://csua.com/?entry=50939
        \_ http://csua.com/?entry=52981
        \_ http://csua.com/Industry/Startup/?page=1
           \_ Thanks for the references --OP
        \_ How many years of experience do you have? How much funding do they
           have? Somewhere between 0.05-0.25% is common. Raw # of shares is
           worthless because they may have 1M or 100M shares outstanding.
           \_ 4-5 years of working part time/interning, with half a year
              at this particular company, so I've already proved that I'm
              quite valuable to them...
              \_ what is this, undergrads posting on the motd?
                 \_ Guilty as charged
           \_ 0.05-0.25% per year or per vesting period?
        \_ In 1998 I joined a startup as Senior Enginner and employee #4,
           and I got 1%.  But that it didn't matter since it filed for Chapter
           7 in 2001.
           \_ As they say, startups are for really really lucky bastards
              or suckers.
              \_ I have worked at three startups and two had an IPO and the
                 other one got bought out at a hefty price. I guess I must
                 be really really lucky.
                 \_ You were a sucker in 2001, but then you got lucky.
                    Or maybe it's fate, it's meant to be.

9/2     Why was Ted Stevens prosecuted and Charlie Rangel isn't?
        http://tinyurl.com/n8qr34