7/24    Firefox 3.5.1 on MacOS is a piece of crap. It crashes ALL THE TIME.
        It has crashed 3 or 4 times on me in the last hour, and not on
        the same pages either. The new Yahoo! home page also sucks ass.
        \_ os x keeps trashing my raid disk: '11 hours to rebuild. have fun
           with the kernel IO subsystem running like shit until then".
           Worthless piece of shit.
        \_ s/3\.5\.1// I've used it for years and the only thing keeping me on is
          the extensions.

7/23    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Modern_Whig_Party

7/24    I am trying to come up with a list of bands that have played the
        Berkeley co-ops. So far I have the following:
        Primus - Barrington "Frizzle Fry"
        Green Day - Cloyne & Chateau
        Digital Underground - Cloyne
        Bluchunks - Chateau and Cloyne
        Broun Fellinis - Chateau
        Black Flag - Barrington
        Flipper X - Barrington
        NOFX - Barrington
        X - Barrington
        Operation Ivy - Barrington and Cloyne
        The Dead Kennedys - Barrington
        Idiot Flesh - Barrington
        \_ I dunno if Green Day ever played Chateau, but I was there when
           they played at CZ.
           \_ Yeah, I saw them at Chateau, in fact I did security at that
              show, which includes a pretty funny story...
        Digital Underground - Cloyne
        Bluchunks - Chateau and Cloyne
        Broun Fellinis - Chateau
        Black Flag - Barrington
        Flipper X - Barrington
        NOFX - Barrington
        X - Barrington
        Operation Ivy - Barrington and Cloyne
        The Dead Kennedys - Barrington
        Idiot Flesh - Barrington
        \- nee Acid Rain, if that counts --psb
           see also
           http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barrington_Hall_(Berkeley,_California
        What am I missing here?
        \_ The Offspring - Cloyne (at least 2x, prob. more)
           Also at Cloyne:
           white trash debutantes
           The Mentors
           Subinicision (I assume)
           If you want less famous bands like this  I could probably come up
           with a lot.  -crebbs
           \_ Chumbawumba, too.
        \_ The Donnas?
        \_ did AFI play there?  The dude "Davey" was at Cal.
           also don't forget Rick Starr!         -brain
        \_ I think Lawsuit played at Cloyne when I was there -emarkp
        \_ Oh, I remember I saw No Doubt at Cloyne back when they were
           first touring.
        \_ 'Davey' still lives in Berkeley. AFI, Rancid, Hepcat played Cloyne.
        \_ Spunky Brewster - Cloyne
           The Flying Jesuses - Stebbins, Hoyt
      \_ ok lets change this to 'bands' that people 'went to see' and
         possibly more than 100 people 'bought a cd from', not bands whos
         audience was chiefly the bands girlfriends.
         \_ then take out Greenday, Offspring, Mentors, Hepcat, AFI....
   \_ what are you talking about?  i guess i was unclear.  collectively,
      greenday / offspring / afi have sold millions of albums.  I'm sure
      the mentors sold at least a 1000 cds in their lifetime!
        \_ AFI didn't really seem to go anywhere after Answer that and
           Stay Fashionable (the punk band which is who you woulda seen
           at a co op).  I think another band is using their name now.
           \_ http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AFI_(band
              Same members, different sound.
        \_ Did Digital Underground play the co-ops? I thought I heard them
           at Cloyne during a hip-hop night. Anyone remember any hip-hop
           bands that played the co-ops?

7/24    Another plane crash in Iran in two weeks.
        http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090724/ap_on_re_mi_ea/ml_iran_plane
        In both times the planes were Russian-made, and in both times they
        blamed U.S. sanctions.  Why don't they blame the Russian govt for
        cutting funding for manufacturers that make spare parts (as mentioned
        at the end of the article) that would have actually made a difference
        to the planes in the crashes?
        \_ Is this a serious question?
        \_ Has anyone noticed there's been an US carrier plane crash about one
           month since Jan.  Wtf?  Why no OUTRAGE.
           \_ What does this mean?

7/24    Is dos2unix available somewhere?  Someone added all those Ctrl-M's to
        motd.public.
        \_ %s/^V^M//g in vim. What has your editor done for you today?
           \_ that works great in vi actually... in vim :set filetype=unix

7/24    Henry Gates arrest police report.  Pretty funny.
        http://www.amnation.com/vfr/Police%20report%20on%20Gates%20arrest.PDF
        \_ ehn.  I'm not laughing.  Might have mad a funny video, but as a
           work of fiction, it doesn't pack much laughs.  (and I can tell you
           from first hand experience police reports are very often more
           a practice in rehearsed creative writing than anything else.)
        \_ "Black officer at scholar's home supports arrest"
           http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/us_harvard_scholar_arresting_officer

           "Meanwhile, the police union and fellow officers, black and white,
           rallied around Crowley, a decorated officer who in 1993 tried to
           give lifesaving mouth-to-mouth resuscitation to Reggie Lewis, a
           black Boston Celtics player who collapsed at practice.
           Crowley, 42, had been selected to be a police academy instructor on
           how to avoid racial profiling."
           http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090724/ap_on_go_pr_wh/us_obama_harvard_scholar_21
        \_ "He even vowed to make a documentary on his arrest to tie into a
           larger project about racial profiling."
           http://www.csua.org/u/oo6 (news.yahoo.com)
           AHA!  That's his motive.
           \- I think CROWLEY should have challenged GATES to a POLYGRAPH DUEL
              based on the stuff he wrote in his police report which GATES
              denied. Seriously. There would have been a large probability
              GATES would have refused and would have wound up on the
              denfensive.
        \_ Is this seriously relevant to 15% unemployment, and 2011 projection
           of hyperinflation?  Like will we care what the color of the skin is
           of the customer carting in wheelbarrows of dollars to buy bread?
           \_ Isn't the race issue usually a bigger issue during economic
              downturns?
           \_ Yeah, Obama screwed that up too.  So we shouldn't talk about
              anything else?
           \_ Are there any non-nutter types who are predicting hyperinflation?

7/24    Stock trading question: If on Monday I sell FOO for $20000 and
        on Tue I buy BAR for $10000 with the "unsettled" money from
        the Monday FOO sale, the only complications are if I sell BAR
        before the FOO settlement on Wed/Thr, right? If I hold BAR
        until after the FOO settlement, then there is no issue on a cash
        account? Also, if I transfer in $10000 after the purchase on Tue,
        does that remove the restrictions?
        \_ Just trade on margin and forget all these complications.
           "I don't know."
           \_ Why not just convert your account to a margin account? I
              highly recommend it. It costs nothing if you don't buy on
              margin. The trade will settle T+3, which is Thursday. In a cash
              account you can buy BAR, but you cannot sell it before
              Thursday. If you deposit additional funds before Thursday
              and sell BAR before then you will get a "good faith" violation.
              Three in one year will result in your account being placed on
              restriction. If you don't deposit the funds at all you will be
              freeriding and you will be restricted immediately. What did your
              broker tell you? I'd go with what he said. You are paying
              him for this advice. I used to worry a lot about all of this
              stuff and my trading was really inflexible, but now that I
              have a margin account I don't even think about it.

7/24    So I bought into the hype after being in San Diego during Comicon
        last year (but not attending) and decided to go this year. I can't
        say I really enjoyed myself. It was $40 for a 1 day ticket and
        what that entitled me to was to stand in line for hours (literally) if
        I wanted to see any of the cool stuff/people like Tim Burton, the
        ability to buy overpriced clutter, er, collectibles, and the
        ability to buy autographs from has-beens like Richard Hatch. I
        would have far preferred to spend $$$ to get into the interesting
        programs without standing in line. The freaks wearing costumes
        were interesting, but overall I wouldn't go back. Example of why
        Comicon sucks: You could win a drawing to be one of 10 lucky
        people who could get your photo taken and get an autograph with
        Stan Lee. Not a year ago I was able to do both things for free at
        a Barnes and Noble without standing in lines, paying $40 entry,
        and entering a raffle. I felt like cattle at Comicon. I saw Buzz
        fucking Aldrin yesterday for $20 and Comicon wants $40 for me to
        be able to enter the show to buy stuff?
        \_ I can't believe anyone on soda would actually want to go to stupid
           comic conventions. I mean, how old are you?
           \_ waaaah I wanna be peter pan and live out my infantile fantasies
        \_ Grow up.
        \_ In the roadmap of life, 'Adolescent Phase' is back the other way.

7/24    Misha Dynin is a Google Reader God.                     -k
        \_ the other XCF guy is with God.
      \_ petm, spencer, josh all happily slave away at GOOG still, though
         they are long past the stage of actually needing money. tracs
         bailed.