Berkeley CSUA MOTD:2009:July:23 Thursday <Wednesday, Friday>
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2009/7/23-29 [Politics/Domestic/Immigration] UID:53185 Activity:low
7/23    http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090723/ap_on_re_us/us_hospital_deportation
        "Hospitals are already struggling under the staggering costs of
        treating the nation's roughly 47 million uninsured. Illegal immigrants
        make up an estimated 15 percent of this group, according to the Pew
        Hispanic Center."  "He and Larson also say a country that relies on
        cheap, immigrant labor for everything from agriculture, to clothing to
        construction, should factor in the cost of catastrophic injuries to
        those providing these essential services - whether it means requiring
        employers to offer coverage even for day laborers or ensuring public
        and nonprofit hospitals can care for them."
        And people think cheap illegal labor is really cheap labor.
        \_ hello jblack (Justin Black), how are you? Is today the
           get angry at all brown people day again?
           \_ Why do the pro-illegal-immigrant people like to equate anti-
              illegal-immigrant opinion with anti-immigrant and even anti-
              minority ones?  -- !jblack
              \_ because the vast majority of "anti-illegal-immigrant" people
                 oppose any attempt to make our immigration laws more sane
                 and thereby reduce the number of "illegal" immigrants.
              \_ 1) It is a handy debating tactic.
                 2) Too often, it is true.
        \_ I know what we need to do, let's start a war and blow up
           $2T in some worthless country, that will help the economy!
2009/7/23-29 [Politics/Domestic/911] UID:53186 Activity:nil
7/23    http://bit.ly/N09ye
        "Twitter has also become a social activism tool for socialists,
        human rights groups, communists, vegetarians, anarchists, religious
        communities, atheists, political enthusiasts, hacktivists and others
        to communicate with each other and to send messages to broader
        audiences," the report said.
        Atheists? Really? Damn, that is one dangerous group there.
2009/7/23-27 [Politics/Foreign/Asia/Others] UID:53187 Activity:nil
7/23    Click fraud rampant. Good for AdSense owners though!
        http://www.techcrunch.com/2009/07/23/sure-the-us-has-a-lot-of-click-fraud-but-at-least-were-not-vietnam
2009/7/23-29 [Finance/Investment] UID:53188 Activity:nil
7/23    Jobless rate is at an all time high but the stock market is on
        steroid. What are some explanations?
        \_ No, it isn't. The stock market is a leading indicator, while
           the unemployment rate is a lagging indicator.
           \_ This is true; however, it is worth noting that the stock
              market can be wrong.  It rebounded 60% off its lows in
              1929-1930.  The question isn't unemployment, the question
              is credit availability and liquidity; if we avoid any more
              bank failures, things will probably normalize relatively
              soon.  -tom
           \_ Are we out of recession yet? Is the economy going through
              a second housing boom?
              \_ http://www.businesscycle.com/resources
                 We will be out of recession in Q4, if not sooner.
                 No second housing boom is required.
        \_ Uncertainty breeds volatility.  The last month is an upswing, but it
           may not be a long-term trend.
2009/7/23-8/6 [Computer/SW/WWW/Browsers, Academia/Berkeley/CSUA/Motd] UID:53189 Activity:nil
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2009/7/23-29 [Industry/Jobs] UID:53190 Activity:nil
7/23    Help end the failed experiment of a full-time legislature in CA
        http://www.reformcal.com/cms
        \_ So you are saying we will be better off if they are _less_
           professional?  Why don't we just make them work 80 hour weeks?
           How about they do some of the roadwork in thier over-time so they
           understand the utility of conserving state funds to allow for
           hiring professionals? -mrauser
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