Berkeley CSUA MOTD:2009:July:21 Tuesday <Monday, Wednesday>
Berkeley CSUA MOTD
2009/7/21-24 [Transportation/Car/RoadHogs, Transportation/Car/Hybrid] UID:53167 Activity:low
7/20    Do people not know that the only place where there is no speed
        limit is on a freeway onramp?  Which means that it is the entrant
        driver's job to speed up and get in past the existing traffic?
        \_ The ones who can't accelerate are in SUVs
           \_ True.  My 2nd-gen Prius (not the 2010) accelerates on the
              on-ramps fine.  -- !OP
        \_ People are stupid. Especially those in LA.
           \_ This happens everywhere, but most noticeable in 2 lane
              or smaller highways.  Indeed in LA, where freeways are wide
              the exsiting traffic has more recourse.
           \_ People might be stupid in LA, but they are much better drivers
              than the ones in the Bay Area. They are especially adept
              at handling merging.
2009/7/21-24 [Computer/SW/Languages/Java] UID:53168 Activity:moderate
7/20    For those who care btw, it looks like eclipse is now A Standard Tool
        at UCB ugrad cs, probably replaced emacs.  Furthermore, people get
        angry at seeing Makefiles, (since eclispe takes care of that).  I
        guess it's just a sign of the times.
        \_ The more people at my work use eclipse the less the code is
           managable in emacs.  I'm not sure which application's fault
           that is, but it still makes me sad.
        \_ 61c still uses Makefiles (at least as of a year and a half ago)
        \_ Do Cal ugrads mostly use Java now?  People in my company only use
           Eclipse for Java.
           \_ From my (1-2 year out of date) memory,
              61a- Scheme b- Java c- C/MIPS asm
              150- Verilog
              162- Java
              164- Python(Hilfinger)/Javascript(Bodik)
              184- Your choice (often C++/C#/Java)
              186- C
              188- Python
              So no, it's hardly "mostly" java.  I like the variety,
              \_ PYTHON FOR 164?!?!  and 186? wow.  61 next like MIT
              \_ 162 in Java?  Are they learning in Java how to write context-
                 switching code?
                 \_ No :(  It's provided, and as best as I could tell
                    (without having looked much) the entire threading
                    model of Java Nachos is completely retarded
                    \_ As obscene as Nachos is.. I don't think the threading
                       model you implement is the damning feature.. its
                       actually the same way you'd want to do it, right?  The
                       problems come because its completely deterministic, so
                       logical race condition bugs will either always or never
                       appear.  Also, you rely on Java happy fun time and
                       don't have to implement dynamic memory management,
                       which I think is the biggest gap in the course. -mrauser
                       \_ You do have to implement it for userland, you just
                          don't have to deal with dynamic allocation in the
                          kernel. The class is supposed to teach you about
                          things like VM implementation, not how to write
                          code without memory leaks, so I don't know that
                          doing OS projects in a garbage-collected language
                          is such a terrible thing.
                          \_ You only implement virtual memory for each
                             process that has static memory requirements.  You
                             don't implement malloc() or free() (nor even
                             discuss how to do so in the class).  Java isn't a
                             problem because students have limited time to do
                             lots of work for the class anyway. -m
                             \_ malloc/free are part of the C standard
                                library, not the OS. At one point, it was
                                covered in 61B, since it's an interesting
                                data structures problem.
              \_ 170 - pencil/paper
                 \_ Or if you had the misfortune of taking it with Clancy,
                    pencil/paper/what was left of your sanity
                 172 - pencil/paper
                 174 - pencil/paper
                 All shall bow before cs theory in fear! -mrauser
              \_ I had 170 with Demmel.  3 projects. in C/C++ Yes this was
                 this century.
2009/7/21-24 [Transportation/Car, Science/Electric] UID:53169 Activity:high
7/21    Quasi Science Question:
        Is running a high ethanol mix going to mess up my 4 banger?
        Also, why do people hate on the eth?  At $2.11/gal it's kinda
        nice, i didn't notice any pings.  - Des Moines CSUAer.
        \_ 2.11 is what you pay for it (maybe) but it isn't what WE pay
           for it.  What's the subsidy per gallon?  What's the cost
           per mile?  Also, I think the majority of hating is reserved
           for corn ethanol.
           \_ from Iowa, i would have to assume that's corn ethanol
              why the hate on corn? is it just the subsidy?
              \_ Corn is a very inefficient producer of ethanol.  -tom
       \_ assuming that's pure ethanol that works out to about $4.00
          per gasoline gallon equivalent (again not counting subsidies)
        \_ EtOH doesn't have as much energy per unit volume, so you are
           not getting as good a deal as you might think.
        \_ Ethanol also burns hotter than regular gas, just check your
           oil over time, you will experience some decay faster than normal.
           Also, unrelated issue but I will assume you might have a boat:
           (or more likely don't consume an entire tank of gas in 3 days).
2009/7/21-24 [Uncategorized] UID:53170 Activity:nil
7/21    "I just love the concept of someone giving me information that,
         by definition,I would absolutely have to already know."
        \_ sounds like every programming job out there. "If i took the
           time to explain it to you, i'd just do it myself and not have
           to hire you."
           \_ My engineers have become a lot more productive when I
              really groked the whole idea of "teach a man to fish."
              \_ eventually they'll be able to psychically derive the
                 product directly from first principles and assumptions
                 they make from facial ticks of management.  Then at that
                 point you can retire, for they truly will be able to know
                 the Mind of God.
        \_ If you have to ask, you don't know.
2009/7/21-24 [Uncategorized] UID:53171 Activity:nil
7/21    What is Google Wave and why should I as a dev be excited about it?
2009/7/21-24 [Consumer/Camera] UID:53172 Activity:moderate
7/21    NASA uses Nikon cameras. NASA prefers Nikon cameras. There are more
        Nikon cameras that went to outer space than any other brand. I love
        Nikon cameras. They're built to be abused, built to last.
        \_ When is Apple going to make cameras or partner with a good one?
        \_ Canon cameras are just as good, and I think in the US Canon is more
           popular than Nikon.  -- yuen, owner 3 Nikon SLRs and 0 Canon.
           \_ Canon cameras always give you more bang for bucks. It's always
              been that way for eons. Canon was the first to forego tradition
              and reimplemented their autofocus lenses (motor in-lens,
              diaphragm in-lens), first to implement in-lens image stabilization,
              first to implement live-view, first to create an affordable full-
              frame camera (5D), first everything. Nikon usually lags behind,
              but they have much higher built quality and lasts in battlefields.
              Older Nikkor lenses also retain much higher resale values because
              they are much MUCH more durable than plastic-built Canon lenses.
        \_ Am honestly looking for a digital camera that works, no fuss,
           turnkey solution with OSX.
2009/7/21-24 [Computer/SW/Compilers, Computer/SW/OS/OsX] UID:53173 Activity:kinda low
        Read the Apollo 11 code comment. Bugless? Yeah right.
        \_ Who claimed that that code was bugless?
           \_ if it was bugless then astronauts wouldn't be necessary
              \_ They're not necessary except to do research. We don't need
                 them to fly anything.
                 \_ "Houston, we've had a problem"
                    \_ Wouldn't have been an issue at all if the astronauts
                       weren't up there to begin with. The O2 was for them.
2009/7/21-24 [Academia, Politics/Foreign/Europe] UID:53174 Activity:nil
7/21    wtf is they have a, xcf, etc
        note berk-ley no 'e'.
        Berkley Business College C/ Ingeniero Marquina, 3 Oviedo,
        AS 33004 SPAIN
        \_ yet another fuckng scam site, they have copied all
           hostnames.and put sshd's on them
   \_ I don't think they 'copied all hostnames' .  I think
      its a dns catchall A record.
   $ host has address
        \_ is not a scam site; it's a college in Spain.  I
           don't know where the name comes from.  Yes, they're using
           wildcard DNS.  -tom
           \_ Check yer hostkeys folks :D
2009/7/21-24 [Computer/SW/Apps/Media, Computer/SW/WWW/Browsers] UID:53175 Activity:kinda low
7/21    Erin Andrews (
        Is that her nipple showing through the jacket?
        \_ This is what you really wanted to see:
           To me it seems contrived that she would be curling her hair
           in the nude right in front of a peephole right when this
           jackass filmed her. I could follow my girlfriend with a camera
           for a week and likely not get such footage.
           \_ nice. I was bored and clicked on your .ogg. THANKS. Worth it.
           \_ How do I open .ogg files?  It looks like crap in Windows Media
              Player -- half the time the frames are pixelated.
              Player -- half the time the frames are pixelated with random
              \_ The video is kinda crappy, but I used Firefox 3.5.1.
                 \_ I see.  My Firefox 3.0.11 said it doesn't know how to open
                    it, so I saved the file and used Media Player.  -- PP
                    \_ Upgrade Firefox and try again.
2009/7/21-8/6 [Politics/Domestic/California, Science/GlobalWarming] UID:53176 Activity:nil
        Stephenson @google booktour. it's pretty cool they have these
        \_ when is coming?
           \_ isn't that what google knol is?
            \_ dead?
           (Salman Rushdie)
        \_ One thing I see with all these is just how arrogant and out
           touch the google employees are about life. I guess koresh's
           flock were out of touch as well as mansen's.
2009/7/21 [Recreation/Dating] UID:53177 Activity:nil
7/21    Someone please post pictures of amazing looking skanks. I'm bored and
        I need to get laid virtually.
2022/09/30 [General] UID:1000 Activity:popular
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