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2009/4/21-28 [Recreation/Dating, Politics/Domestic/Crime] UID:52883 Activity:kinda low
4/20    Anybody know Daniel Andreas San Diego?
        http://csua.org/u/o28
        \_ "Law enforcement officials describe San Diego as a strict vegan
            who possesses a 9mm handgun."
        \_ "On his abdomen, he has images of burning and collapsing buildings."
           Tattoos people, they are called tattoos.
           \_ The POWER of OpenGL: http://tinyurl.com/liberals1
              \_ He's pretty ripped.
        \_ I used to work with him.
           \_ Oh yeah?  He seem like the bombing type?
              \_ I wouldn't be surprised. He used to get on the company irc
                 server and talk about how great the ALF was all the time.
                 \_ To be fair, there were a lot of weird people on cp
                    company irc
                    \_ Did you work there too?
        \_ Was everyone at cp crazy?  so we have insane ALF guy, and
           crazed criminal stock scam guy.  any other awesome people from
           cp i am forgetting?
           \_ what is cp?
              \_ CriticalPath or maybe Communist Party, depending on who
                 you ask.
           \_ Oh, that barely scratches the surface. There were at least
              three drug dealers that I knew of, and one guy who boasted
              of his Mafia connections.
              \_ Did you date the guy who runs http://Suicidegirls.com ?
                 \_ Heh, no, I am not even sure who that is, but I do know
                    that a bunch of the female CP employees ended up with
                    jobs as porn stars at SG after CP blew up.
                    \_ I'm kind of joking.  only 4 people made/make real
                       money off of SG, one of theme is s5, the rest
                       are not CP related.  getting paid $500 once a year
                       to pose is not a real job
                       \_ s5? I always disliked that arrogant little twit,
                          maybe I will have to reassess my opinion of him.
                          I don't know how much "models" on the site make,
                          but you are probably right. Is le one of the 4?
                          but you are probably right.
                          \_ d00d have you seen s5's wife?:
                             http://tinyurl.com/dasr32
                             http://tinyurl.com/c7foyo
                             http://tinyurl.com/dgp8ps
                             \_ Yeah, she is hot and tall, which makes them
                                an amusing couple. Should this make me respect
                                s5 more or less ;-)
2009/4/21-23 [Politics/Foreign/MiddleEast/Israel] UID:52884 Activity:kinda low
4/20    Ok, I am not a Jew hater.  In fact, most of my so-called "white"
        friends turned out to be Jews.   And I am fortunate to have
        opportunity to work with whole bunch Israelis and working with them
        has been an absolute pleasure.  HOWEVER, I just failed to understand
        why people got offended by the speech by Mahmoud Ahmadinejad.  In my
        relatively neutral point of view (I am an Asian),  most of what he
        said has strong points.  For example,  it is obvious that the
        Holocaust has greatly enhance the chance of creating the nation of
        Israel.  and Most Europeans, who has centuries of antisemtic history,
        decided that Palestine people should be the one who bear the cost of
        this statehood.
        It is also true that for all practical purposes, Israel is
        a racist Apartheid state.   What is wrong with these facts?  why
        people walked out for Iran to state the obvious?  or we don't have
        the guts to admit it yet?
        \_ why don't we wipe out all the chinese mainlanders so the Taiwanese
        can restore the former chinese dynasty? I mean this will greatly
        enhance the building up a freer China.
        \_ NO FREE SPEECH FOR RACISTS!
        \_ My observation: I did not hear the speech but some newspaper quoted
           Ahmadinejad mentioning the "question of Holocaust", and that's b.s.
           Holocaust is not a question. It's a historic fact. In any way
           I don't pay much to what he says because you know he's not sincere.
           He's kinda like many other muslim Holocaust deniers. ("Hitler did
           not kill all the Jews. And I am glad that he did!")
           \_ http://tinyurl.com/d8x9bk
              Apparently he did not question the existence of the Holocaust in
              this particular speech, though he has in the past.
           \_ first of all, he didn't denied it this time.  secondly, who
              cares if IRAN denies the Holocaust?  Last time I checked,
              Iran has nothing to do with Holocaust at first place.
              What I am seeing is that USA and rest of Europeans are the one
              in denial.  They want to deny the following trend of logic
              1.  Holocaust happened, this is not right
              2.  Jews need a homeland to protect themselves
              3.  Since non of us want Jews to establish homeland in our
                  territory, let's do that on Arab's land.
              4.  let's call Arabs "terrorist" because they don't accept this
                  arrangement and deny the fact that it was Arabs who provided
                  safe haven for Jews for centuries.
              \_ you're an idiot.
        \_ You're an idiot.
           \_ NO FREE SPEECH... oh fuggedaboitit
           \_ you need to do a better job than that.  I am sincere about all
              these things I've raised. There is a clear cause-effect
              relationship between Holocaust and creation of modern Israel
              nation.  I felt that majority of European nations and America
              are in denial of this.  By the way, there was a proposal to
              create an Jewish settlement in Alaska around the time of end ofr
              WW2. That proposal didn't even made it to the Senate floor and
              died in committe.
              \_ you're an idiot.
2009/4/21-28 [Politics/Domestic/California, Politics/Domestic/Immigration] UID:52885 Activity:kinda low
4/21    Real Per Capita spending in CA budget:
        http://www.lao.ca.gov/2008/spend_plan/fig_6.jpg
        Note that is is flat, which is the opposite of what we have
        been repeatedly told on the motd.
        \_ Does capita take in account for unaccounted illegal immigrants?
                                                                -Dr. jblack
        \_ So the problem is we have too many deadbeats?  Or a poorly
           designed tax system?
           \_ Or are spending far too much of it on prisons.
           \_ Our inflow is too variable, and the legistlature doesn't want
              to build a rainy day fund. The last time CA had a budget surplus
              of any size, the Jarvis crowd went into a lather and cut taxes
              via initiative, so you can see why they don't want to put anything
              aside. Maybe people have wizened up, but I doubt it.
              via initiative, so you can see why they don't want to put
              anything aside. Maybe people have wizened up, but I doubt it.
        \_ Damn those immigrants!                               -jblack
        \_ This chart is BullShit:
           Spending in nominal $$$ has roughtly doubled from 1997-8 to 2007-8
           (http://www.dof.ca.gov/budgeting/budget_faqs/information/documents/CHART-A1.pdf
           Population has risen like 12% in that time.
           (http://www.infoplease.com/ipa/A0004986.html
           I don't know what kind of BS inflation numbers they are using to
           make this work out, but I can tell you that there was not THAT high
           inflation between 1997 and 2007.
           make this work out, but I can tell you that it was not THAT high.
           \_ Given 12% population increase those numbers give me about 1.5x
              per capita increase over 10 years, or about 4%/year.  Seems
              about right.
           \_ It does seem kind of high, but 98 to 08 budget is up 80%, not
              100%. Let me look at the numbers more closely.
2009/4/21-23 [Uncategorized] UID:52886 Activity:nil
4/21    Obagi is for obasan
        \_ What is Obagi?
           \_ facial studio for old Asian women
2009/4/21-23 [Recreation/Food/Alcohol] UID:52887 Activity:nil
4/21    Which restaurant allows bringing your own wine bottle?
        \_ McD's usually seems cool with it. Homeless winos do it all the time.
        \_ Most restaurants that serve wine will let you with a corkage fee.
         \_ But unless you are bringing a high end wine it is considered
            a bit tacky to bring your own.
            \_ Would a bottle of Yellow Tail be considered high end enough not
               to be tacky or should I buy Rosemount Estate?
            \_ Haven't you heard? Frugal is the new black?
             \_ Still tacky.  Go without or don't eat out.
            \_ Or it's your own wine or a wine made by a friend.
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