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\_ this guy started out boring and got more dull from there.
\_ Yes it's true. LA is a great place to visit, but not so great
to live in. I've been living here all my life (minus the best
5 years of my life in Northern Cal). I don't have a choice
to leave LA thanks to my lame family that I need to watch
over and take care of. Drivers are rude and traffic sucks.
Weather east of 405 really blows, and traffic west of 405
blows even more. No me gusta Los An-Hay-Less.
\_ How about Riverside to Long Beach? I know a few people who
live in Riverside but commute to Long Beach for work.
\_ I feel the opposite. I love to visit SF, but not live there. LA
would suck to visit, but I love to live here. As a tourist
I'd far prefer scenic SF, but there's a lot more to do and a
lot more variety in LA.
\_ What are these things you like to do that there is more of?
Besides the beach, I guess.
\_ Go to museums, concerts, art galleries, theater, sporting
events, botanical gardens, and such.
\_ variety, yes. Better food, yes. More to do, yes. But
to do all that, you need to drive... far distances, and
a lot of time in the car. YUCK YUCK YUCK. LA is a wonderful
place to live if you don't have to drive. I can go from the
tip of SF to the bottom of San Jose in one hour. How long
does it take to drive from Pasadena to Irvine? San Fernando
to Diamond Bar? I guess you have a great tolerance and
and lot of spare time. I don't.
a lot of time in the car. LA is a wonderful place to live if
you don't have to drive. How ironic! Look, I can go from the
\_ Very true.
tip of SF to the bottom of San Jose in one hour plus 30min
max. How long does it take to drive from Pasadena to Irvine?
San Fernando to Diamond Bar? Just look at Google Maps +
Traffic on a typical day, and look at all the red indicators
in LA. N Cal rarely has red spots, and at worst yellow spots.
People in LA seem to have a lot of traffic tolerances and lot
of spare time. I don't.
\_ I think driving is a lot faster than public transit most
of the time (exception: rush hour and sometimes not even
then). However, public transit exists if you wish to
take it. Lots of people who commute long distance commute
successfully by MetroRail. It's not any faster, but they
can do other things while they ride. For the most part,
the only time you need to worry about traffic is during
your work commute and hopefully it's not from San Fernando
to Irvine. You are right that traffic on Westside always
sucks and that's why I hate the Westside. The only time I
\_ I find the Westside the only tolerable part of LA.
Santa Monica is sort of like a rich man's Berkeley.
If you live in Santa Monica and can work at a startup
there (or Yahoo/Google or someplace like Universal),
life is pretty good. Mexican Food in LA >> Mission.
\_ Westside has some advantages, but like I said
the traffic is ALWAYS bad, petty theft is bad,
and the crowd that hangs out on the Westside is
the sort of gross plastic shallow rat race set that
people condemn LA as being full of. Santa Monica
is like Berkeley in that it's dirty and full of
homeless people. Those are not the best things
about Berkeley, which has its own "rich man's"
areas just like SM does. Overall, I like to
visit the Westside to get what I need and then
get out. I wouldn't live there. My gf lived in
Westwood and worked in Venice and I spent a lot
of time there. People who live in that area think
life doesn't exist east of the 405 and are guilty of
the same yuppie-flavored provincialism that SF
residents are but with the added twist that
looks are everything because everyone hopes to
be a model or actress and sleep around to
achieve that goal. Yuck.
be a model or actress and sleeps around to
achieve that goal before returning to Peoria
after getting dumped by their married producer
boyfriend when they turn 30. Yuck.
\_ Stop stomping my changes idiot. Figure out what
\_ I'd agree with 70% of what you're saying. I lived
in Culver City, which is "gentrified" as opposed
to mostly white people and didn't have crazy
traffic problems. About a year ago LA douchebags
started invading. But CC was great... good food,
close to the 10 and 405, close to the beach,
affordable, lots of young, poor people (this is
generally a good thing), with rich people
starting to move in. But Palms/CC is pretty ugly
bc of all the monolithic apartment buildings.
Very walkable, even when compared to SF/Berkeley.
\_ Stop stomping my changes dude. Figure out what
you want to say then post it once, instead of
stomping the motd every minute or two.
\_ Sorry.
\_ Santa Monica also has great food, awesome beaches,
interesting shopping and is reasonably walkable,
which when combined with the great weather, makes
it a good vacation spot. All the fabulous looking
people don't hurt either. Where else in LA would
you want to stay as a vacationer? Even 10 miles
inland, the weather gets much worse, at least
in the summertime.
\_ I used to live in San Fernando. Please take
pity on me. Now I live in Pasadena. It's actually
way nicer than "the valley"
pity on me. Now I live in Pasadena. It's
actually way nicer than "the valley"
\_ I think you have confused the meaning of the
word "elitism" with "provincialism." Don't feel
bad, it is a common mistake.
\_ provincialism: a partiality for some
particular place
elitism: the attitude that society should
be governed by an elite group
I don't have them confused, but you could
say SF residents are both.
\_ That is not the correct definition of
the word "provincialism." The correct
definition is:
3 a: a person of local or restricted
interests or outlook b: a person lacking
urban polish or refinement
You have to be more than just partial to a
particular place to be provincial, you have
to be ignorant about other places.
\_ That's nice. I got my definition from
WordNet whereas you are an anonymous
MOTD poser. Dictionaries are not
MOTD poster. Dictionaries are not
infallible, but it's a little much
for you to say it's "not the correct
definition".
\_ I got mine from Merriam-Webster. I
notice you only included defn. #2
while ignoring defn #1.
\_ Because I used it according to
definition #2 when I used it.
\_ When words have more than one
meaning, usage of it implies a
certain overlap. Especially when
you are using the #2 defn. These
rules aren't hard and fast
though, so hard to pin down
exactly. But "provincialism"
definitely implies an ignorance
about regions other than ones
own.
drive to far flung places is on the weekend and the traffic
isn't bad then. The key is to live near where you work. You
will be a lot happier then, whether you live in LA, NYC,
Tokyo, or SF. Commuting to work sucks no matter where you
do it.
\_ Not as bad when you have a Google/Genentech shuttle. |
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