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| 2009/3/10-17 [Reference/RealEstate] UID:52692 Activity:moderate |
3/10 Sure glad I didn't take suburban guys advice and buy a big place
in the outer suburbs:
http://tinyurl.com/b68rty
\_ My house just got appraised for 2x what I paid for it in 2001,
which is down from 2.5x in 2007. I'm really upset about it,
especially since the appraisal was because I refinanced at
4.5% and my payment now is lower than it was when I bought.
\_ Are you perchance a LANDLORD WITH A YACHT?!?!!?!?!!!!!
\_ What is the N Cal equivalent to Riverside? Castro Valley?
San Leandro? Dublin? Tracy? Antioch? Just trying to get
a sense what it is like since I've never been to Riverside.
\_ Riverside County is relatively similar to Contra Costa County.
But downtown Riverside is relatively dense and almost urban.
There's a UC there and a lot of the sprawl cities (e.g.
Moreno Valley, Beaumont) are built around Riverside, not LA.
I just checked Wikipedia and Riverside (city) has almost the same
density of Castro Valley (~3,900/sq mi), but Riverside County
is much less dense than Contra Costa.
\_ professions? crime rates? demograph?
\_ Riverside isn't much like Contra Costa County. I'd compare
it to Modesto.
it to Modesto or Stockton. Contra Costa is more like
Orange County. Riverside does not have very many wealthy
enclaves like Contra Costa County does. Maybe you can
compare Riverside to Davis, too.
\_ Nah, Davis >>> Riverside.
\_ Davis is maybe 1/10th the size of Riverside.
\_ Riverside is much wealthier than Modesto. A better
comparison would be Vacaville. Maybe Vacaville plus
Vallejo.
\_ And a 10x better place to live. Which says something
about how shitty Riverside is.
\_ Perhaps, but all the other cities in the "Inland
Empire" are worse.
\_ I was going to say that Riverside was nicer than Modesto
and then I looked at the demographics and I have to admit
you nailed it. Concord is actually pretty close to
Riverside, in most ways.
\_ Concord is not similar to Riverside in my mind.
Concord has a BART stop that gets you to SF
quickly. Concord is a bedroom community for SF.
Riverside is too far from LA and San Diego to really be
influenced by them, so it (and San Bernardino) are
more like Stockton. I'd live in Concord area but
I'd never (again) live in Riverside area.
\_ Riverside has terrible air quality and the "909" (area code) is
ridiculed as being a meth capital. Moreno Valley passed up Fresno
and was the murder capital of the US a short while ago. I think that
Beaumont was the fastest growing "small city" in California in 2006
and 2007. The IE has a lot of bad things about it. Upside is
proximity to Palm Springs, maybe Temecula (wineries)?
\_ Gotta agree, Riverside smells like cow-ass
\_ You are confusing Riverside with Chino here. Chino smells
like cow-ass, Riverside like car-ass. |
| 2009/3/10-17 [Academia/Berkeley/DailyCal, Academia/Berkeley] UID:52693 Activity:kinda low |
3/9 ASUC, awesome as ever
http://www.dailycal.org/article/104689/students_vote_to_remove_senator_from_office
\_ What's the back story?
\_ Search on the daily cal. Apparently the guy is accused of
attacking some pro-palestinian students, he being pro-Israel.
The charges were dropped by the DA though, so from my cursory
reading it wasn't clear if he actually did anything. -!op |
| 2009/3/10-17 [Politics/Domestic/Election] UID:52694 Activity:low |
3/10 Obama City springs up along the American River:
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/29528182/displaymode/1107/s/2
\_ Damn, Obama sure did a lot in just 50 days.
\_ Actually, that's been there for decades. |
| 2009/3/10-17 [Uncategorized] UID:52695 Activity:moderate |
3/10 Dow rallys 300 points. WHY DID I CHICKEN OUT when it was so
low last week? ARGH!!!!!!
\_ It's ok, it will drop again.
\_ I'm SO GLAD EVERYTHING IS ALL RIGHT CAUSE THE CITI CEO SAID SO!
\_ Remember when Citi was going to buy Wachovia? ha ha
\_ Because you were wise not to gamble on short-term fluctuations. |
| 2009/3/10-17 [Uncategorized] UID:52696 Activity:kinda low |
3/10 Is it customary for a best man to still give gifts to the groom
after spending $$$ and a bunch of time for the groom? I am the
groom and my best man gave me a nice *#@(@ gift, and I really
didn't deserve it... I didn't give him much when I went to
his wedding a few years ago. So much mental torture -full of guilt
\_ No. I think it is customary for the groom to give the best man
a gift.
\_ That's what I thought. -op |
| 2009/3/10-17 [Politics/Domestic/911] UID:52697 Activity:nil |
3/10 http://www.tsa.gov/blog/2009/03/smooth.html ho ho ho the TSA so funny |
| 2009/3/10-17 [Transportation/Car, Transportation/Car/RoadHogs] UID:52698 Activity:very high |
3/10 Are there many JD, MBA, MDs who read MOTD? Currently below, there is
one person claiming to be a lawyer and another mentions an MBA...
Also, is it proper to preface MOTD with a preposition (e.g. the motd)?
\_ I don't know if there are many JDs who read the MOTD, but I do. I
think there is one MBA from INSEAD who reads the MOTD. I don't
know about MDs, but if my brother gets into med school next year
there might be one.
Also, is it proper to preface MOTD with a preposition (e.g. the motd)?
\_ "the" is an article, not a preposition, and yes, the MOTD deserves
an article. -tom
\_ Thanks (for the grammar correction and MOTD rules). It's like
The 405...
\_ no, it's not like "the 405", which is an awful LA
construction (literally and linguistically). MOTD
stands for Message Of The Day, so it's incorrect to say
"Are there people who read MOTD," which expands to
"Are there people who read message of the day?" -tom
\_ You say "gins and tonic", don't you?
\_ "the" is also used in Canada and England. e.g. The M1.
http://www.washingtonmonthly.com/archives/individual/2008_07/014178.php
\_ Well, "The M1 Motorway" is the name of it. The name of
280 is not "The 280 Freeway", it's Interstate 280.
There's also no other 280 around to confuse it with.
You don't put "the" on other road names so why do it
for freeways? e.g. 1st street "the 1st street". We
do say stuff like Highway 1 or Route 1 though, or I-80.
Those actually make sense, unlike "the".
\_ The 10 freeway is the Santa Monica Freeway. The
405 is the San Diego Freeway. It's retarded to
call the 405 "Interstate 405" and immediately
brands you a putz.
\_ not as retarded as calling it "the 405".
\_ Since The 405 is an LA freeway, that's the
appropriate designation. It's The 405,
80, 280, etc, and I-5 (because that's in both
noCal and soCal). If you said "take 405 to 101"
in LA, you'd sound like a FOB who says things
like "have you read message of the day?"
\_ It is certainly the case that we use
dialect to identify clan membership. David
Foster Wallace had an interesting article
(partly) on that point:
http://instruct.westvalley.edu/lafave/DFW_present_tense.html
But it's also the case that "the 405" is
stupid. -tom
\_ Sorry, but it's not. If you say "Take
405 freeway to 10 freeway" then that's
stupid. You need the article just
like if you say "Take the San Diego
Freeway to the Santa Monica Freeway".
Maybe it's not what your used to, but
it's completely correct and makes
complete sense. You can always tell
someone new to California (not just
LA) when they ask "How do I get on
the Interstate from here?" (guffaw)
\_ I say stuff like "take 80 to 980"
all the time. Just like I say
"Go down 18th and turn on
Mission." You would never say
"Go down the 18th" now would you?
\_ No, I wouldn't. However,
"take 80 freeway to 980
freeway" sounds stupid does it
not?
\_ It's not called "the 10 freeway."
It's called 10, or Route 10,
or Interstate Highway 10. -tom
\_ Only on Planet Tom is it not
called "the 10 freeway". It is
called that because it descends
from "the Santa Monica Freeway".
It is sometimes called I-10
and when it is "the" is not used.
However, when "the" is used it
is used because it makes sense
to use it as in "the 10 freeway".
It is never referred to as 10,
Highway 10, or Route 10 and
none of those are official
designations. Official designation
is Interstate 10 and I addressed
that case.
\_ I drove 10 all the way across
the country, and nowhere other
than LA does anyone call it
"the 10," and no one anywher
calls it "the 10 freeway." -tom
\_ I drove 10 all the way
across the country, and
nowhere other than LA
does anyone call it
"the 10," and no one
anywhere calls it "the
10 freeway." -tom
\_ 1. People in LA do call it
"the 10 freeway".
2. The reason no one
anywhere else uses
"the" is because they
do not use names for
it like "Santa Monica
Freeway" and
"San Bernardino Freeway"!
Don't you get it? Hell,
in most of the rest
of the country they
don't even call such
highways "freeways",
but we do and it's
completely correct to
do so. Next you will
be saying that it's
not soda, but pop
because you heard
people in Missouri
call it that.
\_ 1. It's completely
stupid to call it
"the 10 freeway" and
I've never heard anyone
say that.
\_ It is not stupid and
you don't hear it
because you live in
a bubble in
Berkeley. What
is stupid about
it?
\_ As explained
above, it makes
no logical
sense. -tom
2. You're completely
wrong that other
places in the country
don't have local names
for I-10. Look at the
wikipedia page.
\_ I didn't say they
didn't. However,
I bet they use
"the" if they use
them followed by
the word "freeway".
3. People everywhere
other than LA manage
to have local names
for highways, and
don't use "the" in
front of the number.
-tom
_/
Several commenters here says that "the" is used in Canada.
http://www.languagehat.com/archives/003203.php
http://www.languagehat.com/archives/003203.php -abe
\_ People elsewhere
manage to call
"soda" "pop", too.
Is that also
stupid?
\_ That's a
different
dialect--it's
not gramatically
illogical, like
"the 405" is.
-tom
\_ "the 405"
is short
for "the
405 freeway"
which is
grammatically
correct.
\-arent you from
NJ, home of
"the (new jersey)
turnpike" and "the
pip", near
"the long island
expressway" (sic)
"the LIE"
[and the maj degan,
the cross bronx]
the cross bronx etc]
i personally like
the "the". what i
hate is "internet"
without the "the"
and "maths" instead
of "math". --psb
of "math". for fwys
i use kind of an
ideosyncratic system.
for bay area fwys
i'd say "the 101"
but normally leave
off "the" on others.
ideosyncratic
system. for bay
area fwys i'd say
"the 101" but
normally leave off
"the" on others.
\_ "The Turnpike"
is the name of
the road. It's
also I-95, and
no one calls it
"the 95." -tom
\_ Because it is
not "the 95
freeway/
highway/
expressway".
Do you say
"get on
freeway" or
"get on the
freeway"?
BTW, "maths"
annoys me, too.
annoys me,
too.
\_ I was watching Season 5 of 24 last night and the Russians kept using
"the" in front of freeways (e.g. the 118). But they were in LA and
the writers probably live in LA.
\_ "Are there people who read the Wired?" vs. "Are there people who
read Wired?" <-depends on whether you deem MOTD to be a designation
or the title of /etc/motd.public. Either way, you shouldn't be
reading Wired, that rag.
\_ PhDs are a dime a dozen on the motd.
\_ You think a dozen people are reading the motd?
\_ Yeah, about 20 or so.
\_ Thank you for wasting 10 minutes of my life reading about
'405' and 'the 405' on the motd. get lives, all of your. !the tom
\_ Not as annoying as Star Wars guy, but not as exciting as
Bitter Divorced Guy. |