2/23 Libertarian proves you don't have to eat lots of junk carbs to live
within food stamp budget. http://www.freecolorado.com
Anecdotally, my friend's family went on food stamps a while back. They
were amazed at how much fancy stuff they were able to afford on
food stamps that they were never able to have before.
\_ Yes, food in america is cheap cheap cheap. However it's a lot
easier to eat good food for cheap when you have a decent kitchen,
time to shop, time to cook, and the will and nutritional
knowledge needed to eat well. The guy did this for 7 days to
prove a point. That's a lot different from doing it every day.
As to your friend on food stamps isn't that the whole point?
\_ Well, he was responding the arguments that people on food stamps
cannot afford to eat heathily, so the allotments must be
increased.
Certainly it's true that it's easier to eat well if you know how,
how exactly does that relate to food stamps in this case? Is
your argument that food stamps don't just need to finance eating
well, but eating convinently as well?
Finally, when I say they were never able to have such good food
before, I mean, even when he had a decent paying job. I don't
think the point of food stamps is to keep people in caviar.
More details on his diet: (Includes why I think it is quite
sustainable for more than 7 days.)
http://csua.org/u/nmf
\_ From http://www.dss.cahwnet.gov/foodstamps/PG846.htm
"The average amount of food stamp benefits received per
household is about $200 per month."
Note. Per household. $200 a month for multiple people.
\_ Well yeah, most people have other income as well and
don't qualify for the full benefits.
\_ I'm so glad you've brought the pressing problem of food stamps
to our attention! Why worry about our melting economy or those
insolvent banks - the real trouble is a few million bucks we're
giving to poor people!
\_ Right! Let's just go over the same topics over and over again!
Only the important stuff! Where's masturbation guy?
\_ I don't know about this guy, b
\_ those assholes. EATING things.
\_ I'll bet that sounded really funny in your head.
\_ Let me tell you, growing up on food stamps, they were plenty
when the kids were little, but once there was a bunch of teenage
boys in the house, there was never enough food. Any mom was good
boys in the house, there was never enough food. And mom was good
at buying cheap things like rice and beans and stretching the
food dollar. We even grew and raised some of our own. This was
a long time ago though, things might be different now, but I
doubt it.
\_ Hello brother. You and I both benefited from social programs
and we both ended up ok. Without it, I'd be malnutritioned.
I'm a product of social programs and I strongly believe in
social programs for the poor. Fuck all these "low taxes for
me, every man for himself" self reliant fuck tards. Fuck
y'all
\_ No kidding. I got free lunch and during high school free
breakfast as well and I worked every summer after I turned
14 in a restaurant and pretty much half-time after I turned
16 and I *still* barely got enough to eat.
\_ Ok but why were your parents having "a bunch" of kids that they
cannot provide for? I'm sure you enjoy existing, but surely
you can see the problem there. Society should not be obligated
to provide for everybody's kids.
\_ Food insecurity is what makes governments fall. Even if you
like the idea of kids starving because it fits your
ideological purity, I don't think you will like the rioting
that will occur in response.
\_ There are responses to rioters that are not all that
pleasant to said rioters. It's not a one way street.
\_ It's still not a pleasant place to live for anyone.
I, for one, have no interest in living under martial
law.
\_ Hmm, I surprised they don't account for that. It's pretty well
known that teenagers eat 1.5-2x as much as adults.
\_ look, $4.74 per person per day for food is bare minimum
subsistence, however you look at it.
\_ I thought it was pretty obvious it wasn't. I mean, it's
a lot less than most of us use, but that doesn't make it
'bare-minumum.' I largely find this kind of thing
interesting because it shows how far from bare-minimum
most of us are living.
So, according to the straight dope, one can get all the
nutrients one needs from a diet consisting entirely of
potatos, milk, and oatmeal. Which is the diet most of
Ireland was eating prior to the potato famine. That
sounds more like bare-minimum, and it's a whole heck of a
lot less than $4.74 a day. Not that I think that we should
force food stamp recipients to live on dairy and potatos.
I'm just defining bare-minimum.
\_ Please. The Straight Dope article has you eating
8 pounds of potatoes and drinking two gallons of milk
a day. No sane person would consider that a reasonable
diet.
By the way: The US RDA has an interesting history,
and it has only a tenuous connection to health. -tom
and only a tenuous connection to health. -tom
\_ Awesome.
\_ so you agree that Big Government failed in this case?
\_ In what case, defining RDA? The problem with
RDA is not how it was created, it's in how
people think about it. -tom
\_ Two gallons of milk a day is going to cost more than
$4.74 all by itself.
\_ This guy has a lot of advantages that most poor people
do not: he can walk to a good grocery store with a wide
selection of food at reasonable prices, for example.
Most poor neighborhoods are underserved by grocery
stores and if you live in rural areas, you have to drive,
which can get really expensive, or you can take the bus,
which pretty much takes up all your time.
stores and if you live in rural areas, you have to
drive, which can get really expensive, or you can take
the bus, which pretty much takes up all your time.
\_ And has a decent kitchen. With stuff like
a pot that can hold a whole turkey carcass to
make stock. But that's not important to
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